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Anonymous:
oh yea deb, narvin doesnt hurt kids he hires help for that. so true. who does he think he is kidding. wonder where there pr team is now?

Deborah:
**He didn't even look convincing when he was talking - he saw what everyone, including parents see, when they go to Casa and he denied it!  

What he, and we, saw through the hidden camera was what prospective parents see. It's been alledged numerous times that there is a big clean up before a parent arrives. What he said was that it was bullshit. He may have never seen it that good. It's unfortunate that they didn't do more of an interview with him.

Depends on what your looking and listening for. How bout the concern regarding how many bunks were crammed into that small space? 15 beds. Narv said they only ever had 12, max. Then why not take out the extra beds and make some more breathing room for the 12? Use that sq footage for chest of drawers.

I would guess that one of the reasons they don't want to be licensed in Ca. (or anywhere for that matter)- there are minimum requirements for space, so many sq ft per participant, storage space for clothes and personal items, etc. That cuts into profit.
This guy is raking in the dough. Parents may pay less for WWASP programs, and now we see why.
Ghetto conditions, untrained staff= less "tuition".
Do any of the brochures show pictures of the inside of the facilty?

**The concentratin camp thing wasn't even a wwasps place - what's up with that?

How do you know this? Who are you and why should anyone believe you?

Anonymous:
I couldn't watch the show and don't have a clue what anybody is talking about.  Would someone be kind enough to summarize the show? The bits and pieces are very interesting but hard to put into perspective.  I went to the Ryan F. website but couldn't get the "clip" to work.  Anybody else have this problem?

Anonymous:
Inside Edition said they contacted wwasps and wwasps refused to comment - which makes no sense if they knew they would be raked through the mud on national tv.

Deborah - my take is that Narvin showed the reporter around after all the destruction.  He said they normally have 12 bunks, so it's possible they moved beds from another area while they were repairing...just a thought.

It's common knowledge that parents are at Casa by the Sea on a daily basis, so whatever Ryan was talking about - for the parents - seems to be a desperate attempt to discredit what the "parent" filmed. I do agree that they need to lower the enrollment to be crowded looking.  

I would have liked to have heard from parents and graduates of Casa, and also from some others from Dundee Ranch on their experiences.  It wasn't enough to convince me the girl from Texas was truthful.  Her mother obviously was distraught and made for a convincing story. Tears have a way of doing that sometimes.

It's also common knowledge that High Impact was never wwasps, but they sent kids there for a wake up call - and it mostly worked...bad call, though.  High Impact was open to everyone, not just wwasps kids from what I've read in the past, true or not?

I don't know...maybe never will, but I think the story did more good than harm - thanks to Ryan. :wink:

Anonymous:
High Impact? Common know it was not WWASPS? ARe you sure? They only had WWASPS kids, the marketing arm was WWASPS programs, something doesnt smell right. Either way, deep down WWASPS is there somewhere and it was closed. Just one of 7 to date. But yes, still believe they are good. Pleeeezzzzeeeee....

I will agree Ryan is not a good candidate for either side. I hate to say he isnt credible but IMHO, he isn't. I agree with Anon, he didnt have much to say either. Is that why he has just a cameo shot in his movie?  I didnt hear a word about lead plaintiff, just he maybe part of a lawsuit.  He tried. He is young.

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