Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
INSIDE EDITION
Anonymous:
Did I read somewhere that Ryan Friedenburg is the LEAD plantiff in the class action? :rofl:
Deborah - you make no sense to me at all! Personal effects, etc? They clearly shot that video AFTER the place was destroyed by the renegade teens. WHY would there be any personal effects? So what if there were 12 or 15 kids in the room? They chose to not appreciate what they had at home, so...too bad, so,sad. Your filters look for the negative. Is it fun being you? Though it would be hard to find anything positive in that story,you've taken it levels lower in your own mind.
Back to Ryan. :rofl: I truly hope he's NOT the lead plantiff...for the cause will crash and burn.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2003-09-23 21:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Did I read somewhere that Ryan Friedenburg is the LEAD plantiff in the class action? :rofl:
Deborah - you make no sense to me at all! Personal effects, etc? They clearly shot that video AFTER the place was destroyed by the renegade teens. WHY would there be any personal effects? So what if there were 12 or 15 kids in the room? They chose to not appreciate what they had at home, so...too bad, so,sad. Your filters look for the negative. Is it fun being you? Though it would be hard to find anything positive in that story,you've taken it levels lower in your own mind.
Back to Ryan. :rofl: I truly hope he's NOT the lead plantiff...for the cause will crash and burn. "
--- End quote ---
Speaking of the class-action-lawsuit, what is the REAL REASON it has yet to be filed? ISAC has been promoting it on their website for awhile now and there have been many posts on this forum urging parents and former students to "get on board" since the announcement of this soon-to-be-filed lawsuit was made 4 months ago.
Anonymous:
high impact : behind the walls
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My son was in Casa by the Sea for 7 months. Dace Goulding manufactured a lie about my son and true to the form and purpose of WWASP manipulated me into agreeing to send my boy to High Impact. He said that he oversaw the place and that it was a camping experience for those who go and that it covered a beautiful vast area and was very secluded and secure. My son got in an altercation there when the staff who was supposed to watch the boys 24/7 left them alone. My son suffered a broken thumb. He was thrown into a dog kennel cage (I have a video of High Impact provided to me by a detective who investigated it for me.) He was in this cage for 8 days. The first 3 days, he was made to lay on his stomach in the hog tied position with his chin out and supporting his head. He was told not to move lest he be electroucted with a cattle prod. The prod was discharged inches from his face so that he would know it worked. Now before he was trown into the cage, he was beaten by the staff. Efren Hernandez Garcia, grabbed my son by his ears and slammed his face into the dirt until the teeth in his lower jaw broke through to the outside of his lower lip. He was thrown into the cage and his clothes were removed and he lay in a pool of blood from his injury. This is is how he spent his nights. Each night he prayed to go numb from the cold by the numbness never came. He had to lay still as insects crawled over him. At sunrise, he was made to put on thermal underwear and then a heavy woolen sweat suit of navy blue. The temperatures in the day were over 100. He was forced to march. He would fight to not put the sweats on. The staff would grab his broken thumb and twist it to force him to put the clothes on. He complained constantly that his thumb was broken. He was never treated or given medical attention. He was fed only bread and water for 3 days. During the forced marches in the desert heat wearing clothes designed to provoke a heat stroke, he was given an ounce of water every hour. He should have been given a quart. When I finally got him out of there, he was taken to an emergency room. He was immediately scheduled for emergency orthopaedic surgery. He had a bone broken in three places that needed to be put back together with two screws. It was my reports to Mexican authorities that led to the shut down of High Impact. Dace Goulding lies to this day about his knowledge and involvement in High Impact. It was his idea, he oversaw it. The first director, Efren Hernandez, said that Dace Goulding was his boss. The initial calls to High Impact were handled by Casa by the Sea. I am a member in Jeff Berryman's group and am still trying to get a good lawyer. I had one, Tom Burton, but everyone told me to drop him. My son turned 18 this past April. My son sank deeply into hell, the whole year after he was removed from WWASP. I was a program parent until I realized it was the program manipulating me, not my son.
FaceKhan:
I don't watch tv news but I am curious about this Texas family everyone is talking about. What did they say?
Deborah:
***Deborah - you make no sense to me at all! Personal effects, etc? They clearly shot that video AFTER the place was destroyed by the renegade teens. WHY would there be any personal effects?
The sleeping quarters were not destroyed, the beds were made and there was nothing on the floor. There were only bunk beds that looked like they were constructed of used lumber. The kids were packed in like sardines with a small walkway. No pictures on the wall, no personal space or personal effects. There was no place for personal effects if they had any, no storage. That might be okay in your mind, but those conditions would not fly with any reasonable state regulator, or any reasonable parent. BTW, the teens shown leaving Dundee were not carrying anything.
**So what if there were 12 or 15 kids in the room?
So what? You obviously have been duped regarding what is and is not humane treatment. Seems to me that you are "choosing" not to acknowledge what is blatantly wrong with this scenerio. 12-15 in a larger room may not be so bad, although I think there are limits on that as well. The issue was the size of space they had 12-15 in. It wouldn't fly here. It violates Safety and Health codes.
**They chose to not appreciate what they had at home, so...too bad, so,sad. Your filters look for the negative.
And you perceive a hell-hole concentration camp for teens as acceptable, positive. You apparently have bought the party line that says teens deserve to be treated inhumanely because they "CHOSE to not appreciate what they had at home". Is that what all you program parents are really pissed about? So after 2 years in a concentration camp they'll certainly return and "appreciate" what you have to offer. Is that how it works?
And the use of the word CHOSE. Very cleverly designed propoganda for turning parents against their kids. It implies that the child is totally conscious of the "choices" they are making and at fault. This is wrong thinking, but does serve the purpose of dividing and conquering, and justifying "extreme austere measures". Hold the child accountable and let the parent off the hook. Cause after all, if they are consciously choosing to be inappreciative, they deserve to be banished to hell for a reality check. Right?
**Is it fun being you?
It is. Is that something that is drilled into ya'll in seminar? Seems you or another anon has asked that same question before. Everytime I hear it I envision a nine yr old asking it. I interpret it as an indirect communication. I think you resent me and just don't know how to express it.
***Though it would be hard to find anything positive in that story,you've taken it levels lower in your own mind.
Levels lower, no, just viewing it and comparing it to what is considered reasonable, sane, and humane treatment by state regulators and the majority of Americans who don't hate teens. It may be hard to find anything positive because there isn't anything. I know you and others would prefer that they just interview parents and grads without going inside the facility.
I for one, would prefer to "see" their BM techniques in action. I would like to see how they restrain and for what reasons, what actually happens in OP, etc. I don't believe a parent could watch it happening to their child and decide it was appropriate treatment. As long as it's out-of-sight-out-of-mind, and there are other program parents repeating the mantra, "trust the program", parents won't know unless it is exposed. In that regard, the piece was extremely positive.
If the torture techniques work so well, and the "success rate" is so high, why not let the world in on the technique. Perhaps others would be supportive when they saw the technique being applied. Perhaps scholars would do extensive research and raise BM to a new level...beyond punishment and reward to actual torture. If there's nothing to hide and everything's above board, then let an outsider in to document this "revolutionary" treatment for so-called defiant, struggling, unapprecitive teens.
There is nothing revolutionary about torture, and anyone who knows anything about the methods knows why "it works".
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version