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Re: Do parents understand program billing practices?
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2010, 07:37:58 PM »
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Re: Do parents understand program billing practices?
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2010, 07:58:41 PM »
That’s funny!  I take it you got a hold of one of the contracts.  They are very long and detailed.  You have to understand that when there are children involved and the parents need to sign over responsibility then the contract can be (and should be) very detailed and lengthy.

The parents typically do not read the whole thing they hand it over to their lawyer or accountant who breaks it down and informs them of what the extras are.
Typically the therapist is independent from the school, so that there is no conflict of interest, and the therapist can communicate independently back to the parents (or child’s therapist at home).  So the parents need to pay the therapist directly (and not thru the school).  This is actually a good thing and the parents like this.

The school needs to have your medical card and id number so that they can take your child to the doctors or emergency room if needed and they also need approval (up front) for this.

The medication approvals typically need to be cleared thru the child’s therapist.

But all and all there are no real surprises.  The parents are responsible for their own kids expenses.  The program just feeds them and houses them and provides daily needs and transportation.



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Re: Do parents understand program billing practices?
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2010, 08:05:36 PM »
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Typically the therapist is independent from the school

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Re: Do parents understand program billing practices?
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2010, 08:10:53 PM »
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That’s funny!  I take it you got a hold of one of the contracts.  They are very long and detailed.  You have to understand that when there are children involved and the parents need to sign over responsibility then the contract can be (and should be) very detailed and lengthy.

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But all and all there are no real surprises.  The parents are responsible for their own kids expenses.  The program just feeds them and houses them and provides daily needs and transportation.


Well, which is it?  Is it so important and detailed that there needs to be a lengthy contract or is is just that they "feed and house" them?  Do they not provide the therapy they advertise?
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Re: Do parents understand program billing practices?
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2010, 08:18:40 PM »
Ooooo, here he comes!  I can hear him typing furiously away.  Wait for it..........wait for it..............
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Re: Do parents understand program billing practices?
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2010, 08:30:26 PM »
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That’s funny!  I take it you got a hold of one of the contracts.  They are very long and detailed.  You have to understand that when there are children involved and the parents need to sign over responsibility then the contract can be (and should be) very detailed and lengthy.

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But all and all there are no real surprises.  The parents are responsible for their own kids expenses.  The program just feeds them and houses them and provides daily needs and transportation.



Well, which is it? Is it so important and detailed that there needs to be a lengthy contract or is is just that they "feed and house" them? Do they not provide the therapy they advertise?

They typically provide therapy via group therapy and the individual therapy is provided by an independent therapist, although some schools provide both.  I think an independent therapist is important because if the child is having issues with the school then this eliminates a potential conflict of interest and the therapist can communicate directly with the childs therapist at home and with the parents (independent from the school).  This gives the parent another point of view on how the child is progressing.

The contract detail comes with the lawyers need to be thorough.  Those guys are always lengthy.



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Re: Do parents understand program billing practices?
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2010, 08:34:28 PM »
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That’s funny!  I take it you got a hold of one of the contracts.  They are very long and detailed.  You have to understand that when there are children involved and the parents need to sign over responsibility then the contract can be (and should be) very detailed and lengthy.

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But all and all there are no real surprises.  The parents are responsible for their own kids expenses.  The program just feeds them and houses them and provides daily needs and transportation.



Well, which is it? Is it so important and detailed that there needs to be a lengthy contract or is is just that they "feed and house" them? Do they not provide the therapy they advertise?

They typically provide therapy via group therapy and the individual therapy is provided by an independent therapist, although some schools provide both.  I think an independent therapist is important because if the child is having issues with the school then this eliminates a potential conflict of interest and the therapist can communicate directly with the childs therapist at home and with the parents (independent from the school).  This gives the parent another point of view on how the child is progressing.

The contract detail comes with the lawyers need to be thorough.  Those guys are always lengthy.


So, you're gonna dodge the question.  Ok.
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Re: Do parents understand program billing practices?
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2010, 02:43:58 AM »
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So, you're gonna dodge the question.  Ok.

lol

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Do they not provide the therapy they advertise?

They typically provide therapy via "group therapy" and the "individual therapy" is provided by an independent therapist, although some schools provide both. I think an independent therapist is important because if the child is having issues with the school then this eliminates a potential conflict of interest and the therapist can communicate directly with the childs therapist at home and with the parents (independent from the school). This gives the parent another point of view on how the child is progressing.

Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Well, which is it? Is it so important and detailed that there needs to be a lengthy contract or is is just that they "feed and house" them?

The contract detail comes with the lawyers need to be thorough. Those guys are always lengthy.



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