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Re: Bullshit Propoganda from Ridgecreek "School"
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2010, 10:48:31 AM »
Quote from: "Len Buccellato"
The same quality of excellence in clinical, academics, sports and recreation that you knew at Hidden Lake Academy is present at Ridge Creek School.

This is not good news.  Not sure why he would even say this.  HLA amassed sixteen hundred pages of ORS violations over a one year period.  This is simply an admission that nothing has changed
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Re: Bullshit Propoganda from Ridgecreek "School"
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2010, 05:05:32 PM »
Quote from: "Jill Ryan"
http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/


Private facility residential boarding schools experienced a reduction in revenue on an average of 20% over the past 2 years due to the economy so anymore erosion due to bad press may have tipped the scales for HLA pushing them into the red.  CRC saw a 19% reduction in revenue last year but was able to offset that with a 14 % reduction in salaries and overhead expenses with the help of the closure of Mount Bachelor Academy.  So CRC was fortunate that they can close a facility to offset a weak economy, whereas HLA doesn’t have any other revenue generation to turn to in tough times so it was a good move for them to cut their losses and change their name.  Sometimes it is not worth fighting the battle because in the end right or wrong the negative press dominates and will affect your bottom line.  Its good to see that HLA’s old website took the time to explain their move to those alumni and new parents who have come to visit.



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Re: Bullshit Propoganda from Ridgecreek "School"
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2010, 05:47:56 PM »
Quote from: "Len Buccellato's Rectum"
Even though the petition was dismissed we were unable to get the unsubstantiated statements off the web . The negative blog sites continued their slanderous attacks.

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :roflmao:

It gets even more hilarious!  Don't drink liquids when reading this- at least not with your keyboard in the way!

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Private facility residential boarding schools experienced a reduction in revenue on an average of 20% over the past 2 years due to the economy so anymore erosion due to bad press may have tipped the scales for HLA pushing them into the red. CRC saw a 19% reduction in revenue last year but was able to offset that with a 14 % reduction in salaries and overhead expenses with the help of the closure of Mount Bachelor Academy.

I'm sure DJ and RB will be by to ask you how you know this, but all I have to say is FUCKING OWNED. Although the rate of decline is far, far too slow. Hopefully the decline is on an accelerating asymptotic curve; if that's the case, CRC Health will simply sell the properties in a few years and we can put the big-business programs to rest as a failed enterprise. From there it's just a matter of wiping out the religious ones, shoring up the psychiatric hospitals against program tactics and philosophies, and that'll be it for this industry.
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Re: Bullshit Propoganda from Ridgecreek "School"
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2010, 11:58:11 AM »
CRC's Youth Care division is currently being shopped.  They see a permanent decline in revenue I suspect.  Let's see who's dumb enough to buy it, if anyone.
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Re: Bullshit Propoganda from Ridgecreek "School"
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2010, 12:17:28 PM »
Quote from: "Ursus"


Name Change: Hidden Lake Academy is now Ridge Creek Academy. The same quality of excellence in clinical, academics, sports and recreation that you knew at Hidden Lake Academy is present at Ridge Creek School. The only difference is that our average length of stay is now 12 months.


I think that says it all.  Nothing has changed except the name.  And yes, I do wonder where/how Whooter gets his stats.  Afterall, he's "just a program parent"....right?
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Re: Bullshit Propoganda from Ridgecreek "School"
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2010, 12:47:33 PM »
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Ursus"


Name Change: Hidden Lake Academy is now Ridge Creek Academy. The same quality of excellence in clinical, academics, sports and recreation that you knew at Hidden Lake Academy is present at Ridge Creek School. The only difference is that our average length of stay is now 12 months.


I think that says it all.  Nothing has changed except the name.  And yes, I do wonder where/how Whooter gets his stats.  Afterall, he's "just a program parent"....right?

Oh No!!  by your definition DJ must be an industry person.  How would he have inside information about CRC's youth care division being shopped.  This place is crawling with industry people lol.



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Re: Bullshit Propoganda from Ridgecreek "School"
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2010, 12:53:05 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Ursus"


Name Change: Hidden Lake Academy is now Ridge Creek Academy. The same quality of excellence in clinical, academics, sports and recreation that you knew at Hidden Lake Academy is present at Ridge Creek School. The only difference is that our average length of stay is now 12 months.


I think that says it all.  Nothing has changed except the name.  And yes, I do wonder where/how Whooter gets his stats.  Afterall, he's "just a program parent"....right?

Oh No!!  by your definition DJ must be an industry person.  How would he have inside information about CRC's youth care division being shopped.  This place is crawling with industry people lol.


Of course you have nothing to say about Ridge Creek being exactly like HLA.   Go after the low hanging fruit when you don't have a decent rebuttal to the salient point.
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Re: Bullshit Propoganda from Ridgecreek "School"
« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2010, 12:54:26 PM »
I work in the healthcare industry and follow it closely.  CRC Youth Care is being shopped.  They're losing money and have been for several years.  Before they blink out they're trying to get some jing.  It isn't that deep.

Whooter knows this because he's an Aspen Ed fiduciary, as he openly has admitted.  Don't let him play coy with you.  It's no mystery where he gets his information from - Aspen's books.
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Re: Bullshit Propoganda from Ridgecreek "School"
« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2010, 01:52:42 PM »
DJ, anyone can do what you do.  We just dont chose to do it.   You claim to have all this education yet you cannot have a civil conversation about the industry you claimed to have worked in (on any level except to discredit other posters).

Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
Quote from: "Guest"
Fact One: This post shows Dysfunction Junction worked at Daytop at one time. It also shows that he had a felony conviction and prison sentance.

Fact Two: He no longer works in the TBS field. According to him he got disillusioned with the industry. I suspect he isn't allowed to be employed by them with a previous felony conviction as most TBS's do background checks for most of their employees usually.

I'll bust your fucking teeth down your throat, choke you until you nearly fall unconscious, then give you a wake-up kick to the temple and send you on your merry way.  Your pain, suffering and disfigurement wouldn't matter .......

Look, DJ, you dont need to threaten everyone that disagrees with you.  I think we all know that if it were not for your criminal past that you would still be working in the TT industry instead of posting here on fornits to establish a resume that doesnt exist in real life.  Maybe when you took this anger of yours out on the kids is why HLA decide to release you.  I believe you have a past post where you admitted this unless you edited it out all ready.



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« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2010, 09:22:50 AM »
Quote from: "Jill Ryan"
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The first link, Explanation of the petition, appears to be the same document which started this thread.

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Re: Bullshit Propoganda from Ridgecreek "School"
« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2010, 12:46:57 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Look, DJ, you dont need to threaten everyone that disagrees with you.  I think we all know that if it were not for your criminal past that you would still be working in the TT industry instead of posting here on fornits to establish a resume that doesnt exist in real life.  Maybe when you took this anger of yours out on the kids is why HLA decide to release you.  I believe you have a past post where you admitted this unless you edited it out all ready.


I don't think it's wise of you to insinuate things about other people's criminal past when you admit to having one of your own, but refuse to give the details and excuse your criminal behavior as "being a kid"....at 22....but real kids (under 18), according to you, are deserving of being sent off to abusive "rehabs".
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Re: Bullshit Propoganda from Ridgecreek "School"
« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2010, 01:10:10 PM »
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
Whooter, 22 is not a "young kid." You were arrested several times as an adult. Trying to move away from your admission now suggests you are not being truthful. Many here believe you have a lot more criminal  experience than you want to say, so you just post some BS about a 22 year old being a "young kid." You're a lying phony about everything.


I don't think it's wise of you to insinuate things about other people's criminal past when you admit to having one of your own....

Yeah, I agree Anne.



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Re: Bullshit Propoganda from Ridgecreek "School"
« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2010, 03:04:40 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
Whooter, 22 is not a "young kid." You were arrested several times as an adult. Trying to move away from your admission now suggests you are not being truthful. Many here believe you have a lot more criminal  experience than you want to say, so you just post some BS about a 22 year old being a "young kid." You're a lying phony about everything.


I don't think it's wise of you to insinuate things about other people's criminal past when you admit to having one of your own....

Yeah, I agree Anne.

but refuse to give the details and excuse your criminal behavior as "being a kid"....at 22....but real kids (under 18), according to you, are deserving of being sent off to abusive "rehabs".  Anything to say about that?
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Re: Bullshit Propoganda from Ridgecreek "School"
« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2010, 03:18:22 PM »
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
Whooter, 22 is not a "young kid." You were arrested several times as an adult. Trying to move away from your admission now suggests you are not being truthful. Many here believe you have a lot more criminal  experience than you want to say, so you just post some BS about a 22 year old being a "young kid." You're a lying phony about everything.


I don't think it's wise of you to insinuate things about other people's criminal past when you admit to having one of your own....

Yeah, I agree Anne.

but refuse to give the details and excuse your criminal behavior as "being a kid"....at 22....but real kids (under 18), according to you, are deserving of being sent off to abusive "rehabs".  Anything to say about that?

Anne I told everyone in a previous post that I was never sentenced, they were all for civil disobedience in high-school and college.  They put us in jail a couple of times to put a scare into us and if we were underage then they would release us to our parents.  To me 22 is just a kid.. my daughter use to call the neighbors children little kids when she was 7 years old......age is all relative.

Why do you get the impression that I think "real kids" under the age of 18 deserve to be in programs?  I have been clear that programs should only be used as a last resort and are not good for all kids nor can resolve all the issues.  The children should be referred to programs by a professional in my opinion.



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