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MelissaR:
I'm confused as to why being concerned about the credit I am responsible for is being "spoiled and whiny" to you. I have a job, I make my own money, and if my credit goes down the toilet, it will affect me for the rest of my life. I just think that organizations like ISAC should be doing a service free of charge. I would be more than happy to make a *donation* for the cause, but seeing as I don't have a child I am considering placing a program, at $10.00, their services are useless to me. It's not even so much the $10.00 that bothers me, it could be $10.00 or $100,000.00.... I just think the principle behind it is not okay, seeing as they are not even a very credible organization at this point. What about weary parents that are on the brink of sending their teens...grimacing at the 30 grand already down the shitter? They're not going to take the time and money to question their decisions. It was simply a bad move on ISAC's behalf.

ISAC:
Our site is currently free as their is "guest" account set up. There has been for over a week. We will be charging as ISAC spends hundreds of hours a week working, thousands of dollars in mail outs, phone bills, internet access, website fees and more. This requires us to charge a small fee as it is difficult for survivors to continue to fund ISAC fully.
All information that parents need to get information on a program will ALWAYS be free.
We currently have saved over eighty children however, it does cost money to run ISAC.
We also offer ANYONE that if they can not afford the ten dollars to email us and we will give them access if they can not afford it.
ISAC works closely with as many parents as possiable.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2003-09-21 16:51:00, MelissaR wrote:

"I'm confused as to why being concerned about the credit I am responsible for is being "spoiled and whiny" to you. I have a job, I make my own money, and if my credit goes down the toilet, it will affect me for the rest of my life. I just think that organizations like ISAC should be doing a service free of charge. I would be more than happy to make a *donation* for the cause, but seeing as I don't have a child I am considering placing a program, at $10.00, their services are useless to me. It's not even so much the $10.00 that bothers me, it could be $10.00 or $100,000.00.... I just think the principle behind it is not okay, seeing as they are not even a very credible organization at this point. What about weary parents that are on the brink of sending their teens...grimacing at the 30 grand already down the shitter? They're not going to take the time and money to question their decisions. It was simply a bad move on ISAC's behalf."

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Melissa, it's obvious from your comments about Ryan F. and here about ISAC that you have real "issues" with the whole concept of money to the point that you consider even charging to cover *part* of costs incurred in providing a service to be immoral "money grubbing."

I think you should seriously consider whether when you air those personal "issues" to bash people that are actually doing something concrete and positive to help stop child abuse by the teen help industry that you are doing more harm than good.

When your personal "issues" start getting in the way of people who are actually getting the job done, it's time to consider whether a particular gripe is just you and airing it is counterproductive.

The idea that everyone has to tell everyone else every nasty thought that wanders through their mind is the tool of the Programs.  In real life, some things are just better left unsaid.

Your criticisms of people who aren't engaging in any kind of fraud, and are charging amounts that bear a reasonable relationship to the cost of providing the service, for "money grubbing" are some of those things better left unsaid, because it's destructive, not constructive.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2003-09-21 15:53:00, KarenZ wrote:

"I agree they are doing a good job at what they do.

This is why I have so often refered to them. I myself don't think there is any attempt here to profit; and I understand cost are involved.

I'm just consirned with how it might look to others - others being the post program students I send there.

I don't feel comfertable sending them to a site were they have to pay to log on.

There are Some who might go so far as to claim I'm profiting from it if I did!

I feel a little discouraged by this; but imagian it'll some how work out for the better.

They are good people at ISAC, and I imagian they know what their doing; but personally, I regret it.

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Well, when you refer a post program student there, you can tell them up front that if they can't afford the $10 they can write and tell ISAC so and ISAC will waive the fee---which is what they just said in another post, and which is mighty decent of them.

It sounds to me like they're just trying to cover some of their costs so they don't have to cut back on services.  Given the good work they do, and given that they'll waive the fee in cases of financial need, it seems to me like they're making the best choice they can.

Anonymous:
Karen wrote: Mom and Dad might not be so keen on helping out, ya know?

What does that mean?   :wink:

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