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REFUGE OF GRACE ACADEMY FOR GIRLS,STOCKTON MO
DannyB II:
--- Quote from: "brokenchild" ---Please for the sake of your daughter, do not send her to this so called reform school. I am a former student, and in no would want to misrepresent this, or any other place that I have attended. When I first arrived at the school, I'll admit, I wasnt a perfect child, however, after leaving the strict guidance of this place, I was ten times worse. (If you cage a mildly assertive dog, and release it years later I promise you it will turn into an aggressive breed) I was a free spirited, 15 year old girl, tough, yet big hearted. I have never been known to just cry for any reason, but let me tell you, after just a few mintues of attending the school, I bitterly wept for the first 6 months. Not only did i feel abandoned, I felt unloved. After receving my first phone call after 30days, I did nothing but sob uncontrollably to return to that place I called home, and after being denied such, I was chastised verbally by Miss Debbie for even asking to do so as soon as the monitored call ended. I could go on and on about specifics of this place, however seeing that I am replying to your post some months later, I fear I may be too late. My post icon is a heart, because I harbor no hate towards these people, however each and everytime I hear of another parent considering this place, it breaks my heart because i feel like i should have done more to prevent this. Bro. Bud and Miss Debbie, supposedly have a burden for rebellious girls, well i too have a burden, and its the burden of getting the word out to parents who just dont know what to do. Seperation is not the answer, and again I beg of you, please do not scar your child for life by sending them away. If you have any questions, comments or concerns, Im more than willing to respond, as is my mother, who now regrets the decision that utimately cost her 19 thousand dollars, and her eldest daughter.
-concerned former student
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Thank you....I hope in time you will heal.
Dr. Acula:
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veejay:
I would not send your daughter there. Although Bud and Debbie Martin will probably deny this. They had a school in Gaylord, Michigan and it was closed down by the Child Protective Services. I'm sure you can find this info if you contact CPS of Michigan. I knew of at least 3 girls that were removed and returned to their homes and then the facility was closed. The CPS investigator believed that there was some abuse but not enough to press charges. They were ordered to cease and desist. That's when they moved out of state. The church they are affiliated with now needs to do background checks for every state. So sorry to have to give out this kind of info. But if it saves one child from abuse it's worth it.
buzzchipyear:
I realize some of these posts are old and now outdated, so in the intrests of fairness, I feel I should clarify
Some of the misinformation here. First of all, Refuge of Grace Acedemy is now accredted. Parents just need
To fill out the dual enrollment paperwork when the child starts there. I know a lot of girls that have been helped by this school.
It is no picnic, and some of the hard cases have trouble because they are not used to living under rules.
They do provide a lot of structure that teens desperately need and their costs are reasonablle when compared to other boarding
Schools. BTW a lot of Christian schools have been forced to move to different states because the lawmakers make it harder for them to exist in some states. There are virtually no Christian boarding schools on the West Coast thanks to California's compulsary attendance law. There is only one that I know of in Michigan, but it costs 60000 per year.
Anyway, I know a lot of parents that stand behind ROG as a good solid, reasonable cost program.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "buzzchipyear" ---I realize some of these posts are old and now outdated, so in the intrests of fairness, I feel I should clarify
Some of the misinformation here. First of all, Refuge of Grace Acedemy is now accredted. Parents just need
To fill out the dual enrollment paperwork when the child starts there. I know a lot of girls that have been helped by this school.
It is no picnic, and some of the hard cases have trouble because they are not used to living under rules.
They do provide a lot of structure that teens desperately need and their costs are reasonablle when compared to other boarding
Schools. BTW a lot of Christian schools have been forced to move to different states because the lawmakers make it harder for them to exist in some states. There are virtually no Christian boarding schools on the West Coast thanks to California's compulsary attendance law. There is only one that I know of in Michigan, but it costs 60000 per year.
Anyway, I know a lot of parents that stand behind ROG as a good solid, reasonable cost program.
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Well, thank you for your input. What, in your opinion, qualifies someone as being one of those "hard cases [who] have trouble because they are not used to living under rules?" Which "rules" do the girls seem to have the most difficulty with?
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