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Bethel Boys Academy, Lucedale, MS.

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Watchaduen:
How about massive pay-offs?  People in high places are paid to look the other way.  This has been proven with the last investigation.  Obviously I can't go into specifics as the lawsuit is building momentum.  When I rescued my son, we sat in on a meeting at the Attorney General's office.  Every department was there, Social Services, Family Services, Health Dept., etc.  Each dept. also had their own lawyer.  Yet, when it was all said and done, nothing happened.  Even when the State raided the place, it was botched to the hilt.  Only 13 boys were removed.  Yet we have victims that were there when the State came in.  Those boys were still stuck there.  Miss. has some huge problems and I am sure they thought we victims would just go away - like they have all those other years.  Well I am here to tell you - Bethel FUCKED with the wrong MOM this time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous:
You have to understand that Herman's attorney was a former deputy DA in Miss. He (Herman's attorney) has friends in very high places since he (Herman's attorney)used to WORK FOR MIKE MOORE, the DA of Miss!

 :eek: SOOOO convienient isn't it that Herman found that attorney....is it coincidence or what???/

Anonymous:
Everyone should read the consent decree signed by Bethel and the State of Miss. last August. It is, of course public record.

http://www.ago.state.ms.us/divisions/ch ... Decree.htm

Antigen:
Ok, this is good. It's not bad. But don't get too, too excited. Near the end of the document, you'll fine this:



The Defendants shall comply with all applicable laws of the state of Mississippi ...

--- End quote ---


Well now! Now that the court has ordered it, now they'll surely start obeying the law, right kiddies?

If they've been breaking the laws of Mississippi, then why aren't they facing criminal prosecution and sentencing according to the laws of Mississippi?

I recall a similarly silly bit of legaleze a couple of years ago. Some congresscritters passed through (or tried, I really don't remember offhand) a law that would require lawyers working for the Atty General's office to, now get this, to abide by the laws of the states in which they were practicing. See, there had been a problem where DOJ lawyers had been flagrantly violating laws pertaining to the practice of law. Not that they didn't know it, just that they deemed themselves above the law. Do you think this new edict has changed their minds about that?

As de dawg chases his tail...
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid
of the dark. The real tragedy of life is
when men are afraid of the light.
--Plato
--- End quote ---

Anonymous:
Great Reply!

In my humble but seasoned opinion, I think my reasons for suggesting we read the consent decree are as follows:

1) The decree outlines the charges against Bethel. They had to be legitimate CHARGES. The state would throw out such charges if they found those charges to be trumped up, vague or not able to be proved. By virtue of the decree, all the evidence, testimony of the witnesses etc. is invalidated for future use if my understanding of double jeopardy is correct. I cannot be positive of that unless the judge executed this using a legal mumbo jumbo term known as "with prejudice". That would mean Bethel cannot be charged or tried criminally for these same accusations again.

2) Bethel had (?) a ZERO tolerance for abuse policy in affect prior to the events that prompted the decree.

3) The decree is basically a "no fault" document. The state of Miss made some greivious accusations based on something (you do not simply accuse people of such without valid evidence). But whoa, pardner, the get out of jail free card. The statement in the decree that states Bethel neither admidts to or denys the allegations. Wow! What a break! Even better, the state basically says y virtue of its actiosn and the decree itself OK, here are the charges. You (Bethel) do not have to admit or deny them. We as the state will not pursue them to acertain thier accuracy or error through the normal channels of discovery, further investigation and a trial before a jury.

As I said, it is a no fault document. The state does not act to prosecute, the alleged defendant does not have to admit or deny any wrongdoing even though there was a COMPELLING body of then current and past historical evidence that should have forced the state to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. Furthermore, the witnesses that the state could have brought forward will never get to tell thier stories. The decree muted all of them, thier stories and facts relating to whatever happened to them while in the custody of Bethel. Again, this testimony could have cleared Bethel or nailed them to the wall. That is the injustice for society and potentially a break for Bethel if they were in fact guilty.  We will simply never know.

4) The decree buys them time, gives them specific directions how to stay out of the soup that brought them to the decree signing to start with. How many other people that have such evidence brought up against them get this kind of break? I thought the law was for protection of those that abide by it and for the punishment of those who do not! And, look, even if Bethel were as clean as a little babys freshly changed behind, no one will ever have a verdict from a jury of thier peers rhat heard the evidence and ruled "guilty" or "not guilty". This is what the citizens of Lucedale, Mississippi, the parents and children that are alleged victums and society in general have been denied through this path taken with the decree settlement.

5) The extreme irony is the fact that the state basically formulated a "don't screw up again policy" in the decree where detailed requirements for actions, procedures, personnel and monitoring were spelled out in great detail for the Bethel management. I mean, this is great for Bethel. Not only did they not get shut down and all go to prison, but they got off and the state, at the state's expense, wrote them an operating framework and policy. I guarantee you an independent consultant would have charged Bethel a pretty penny for doing the work of putting the instructions together the state did in the decree. You may say there were court costs and attorney fees, well consider this, Bethel is still in operation recieving their fees for every child on campus. I would certainly pay for a lawyer and court costs if the other option was out of business and in jail for some number of years.

5) The decree is not a document that is harsh on Bethel. Some people may say "boy they really smacked them". Well. not really. This is a document that serves a purpose, but for the life of me I cannot understand what actions or relationships or whatever caused this document to come into existence to begin with. The decree is designed to appease the state and "discipline" Bethel. Yet, again, where is the "bite"? There is no fine to my knowledge. There is no jail time or probation that I know of? Where is the swift and firm hand of justice in all this? Again we have been denied the right as a society for our elected officials to pursue justice and clarity when such serious allegations are lodged against an organization or person such as Bethel was accused of.

5) The decree has a time limit on it. In August of 2006 Bethel can petition the court and have the decree annuled, as I understand it.

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