After further fucking around this morning I have done the following:
Played it into tape,"raw",with "plate reverb", "plate echo", and the best rusult was thru my cheeeezy little Danelectro "slap echo" thru various eq'ing I also can get it to sound more bass drummy,I took a piece of 3/4 inch plywood and it gets a fucking WICKED,real foot on wooden floor foot stomp sound,which is what I was looking for to start with. Now how do I make it sound BACKWARDS? Hmmmmmm.