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Hidden Elan School secrets (repost from cache)
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---OK, Mark Babbitz was criticized for doing this or something close. I think he was questioned as to "flooding," but then again he wasn't well liked. Jeesh is this how you have helped your treatment center forum (do you have one) to repost. Did you ever go through one, work at one or just study them. Please enlighten there are more folks then you think that would like to know.
Felice is not the only member of Elan. What are your credentials Ursus. Fair question???? Don't expect a answer but would be surprised.
Danny... :shamrock:
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We've gone through this before, Danny, but no matter. You did seem to, however, remember the answer to your own question just four days ago:
"So let me understand this you have a person from Daytop Moderating ELan Forum and a Hyde whatever person also moderating Elan. This is your idea of a de-federalized fornits. Oh I know you asked, Sharon in a polite way if you could jamb both these people down are throats. Sharon......That's it nobody else."
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As to the reposting of material from this thread, I was under the impression that these posts were of historical value and warrant being saved if possible. I take it you feel differently?
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#76 Post by SyN » Sun Sep 21, 2003 9:48 pm
--- Quote ---i havent received any problems from it.. i'll check it out though
SyN
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#77 Post by Tatiana » Wed Sep 24, 2003 3:44 am
--- Quote ---got another failure delivery notice today.. thought i'd let u know.. it couldn't be from my end because i'm not having a problem sending to anyone else...
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#78 Post by Antigen » Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:54 am
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--- Quote ---On 2003-02-18 04:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
But i have a feeling that if Elan KILLED someone, well there would be some legal issues you liar.
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Ok, let's say you're a police investigator working for whatever DA has jurisdiction in Poland Maine. The coronor has ruled this a suspicious death, due to evidence of sustained illness, lack of medical records showing minimum proper care and unexplained bruising on the body due to the kid having been in the ring.
Who are your witnesses? Can they speak freely and candidly without fear of retribution? Nope. All witnesses are either potential suspects (staff) or children subject to retribution of the most serious kinds at the hands of any potential suspects. Did the alleged victim recently have any serious disagreements with anyone? Sure, everyone. After all, you don't go in the ring for nothing, right? Well... right?
Every stinking day I watched kids get assaulted, physically and verbally and in other, more subtle ways in Straight.
Some people think I'm just about a cold hearted bitch for not helping with the attempted prosecution. But you know what happened in the end? They couldn't make any of it stick. All the witnesses were accused (thought not properly diagnosed) drug addicts, and even half of those (those still in the program or in jeapordy of being sent back) swore up and down that they were there, they saw it all, and it didn't go anything like what the others were saying. Instead, they had the injured kid going psycho for absolutely no reason on some poor, innocent staffer or other client who, after all, had only been trying to help him!!
You see the problem here?
--- Quote ---History gives us a kind of chart, and we dare not surrender even a small rushlight in the darkness. The hasty reformer who does not remember the past will find himself condemned to repeat it.
--John Buchan
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#79 Post by Antigen » Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:07 am
--- Quote ---Tatiana, so glad you came back around here.
The story's coming out. Little by little, the truth wins out over all the bull.
--- Quote ---Give me the youth, and Germany will rule the world.
--Hitler
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#80 Post by Guest » Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:26 pm
--- Quote ---What a horrible place. I was in straight inc., which was similar in a lot of ways. Good post.
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