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Ex-Staffers at Elan Ajustment w/ the Elan Community (repost)

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#26 Post by Danny Bennison » Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:34 am

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--- Quote from: "bossybee39" ---No offense but giving out your address and number online is not only fucken stupid but highly dangerous. WTF is wrong with you to put everyone in danger. We even tell children not to give out information, do you not listen. OMFG I think that was not to wise Danny.I may not see eye to eye with you too much but omfg there are unstable people on here, especially ppl that have such driven hate for elan staff. That was beyond stupid, go smack yourself a few times. omfg
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You are exactly right in everything you said , no excuses I really thought I was talking confidentially w/ F on there email line here. I don't know it was stupid no doubt. I am correcting it now as fast as I can. Please tell (F) to erase to please.
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#27 Post by bossybee39  » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:46 pm

--- Quote ---Hey Danny not to be a jerk here but you are totally giving ppl what they want, you need t get your information off fornits. Be more careful cuz regardless if likeppl like you or I are on here, we got families at home too that dont need the hotility we encountr daily. I may call you a name or get all pissed at you, but seep down I would be upset if anything bad happened. Thats the beauty of these forums I can yell and scream but trully aint going to hurt anyone. It is concerning as to how fast you gt these ppl mad at you and yelling at you. Danny did you consider maybe your feeling insecure about life a bit so your allowing them to attack and bait you? No offense but in this site and the elansurvivorsgoup. com site you are very easily baited. IDK you would think since you worked a bit in the field you would have more sense to blow most of it off then actually take it to heart. Idk thought you would have more grit in ypu, and be strong. Well happy holidays.
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#28 Post by bossybee39  » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:47 pm

--- Quote ---sorry cant spell just woke up, so please excuse the typos and try to figure out what I meant. Coffeee still not kicked in at all.
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#29 Post by Danny Bennison » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:15 pm

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--- Quote from: "bossybee39" ---Hey Danny not to be a jerk here but you are totally giving ppl what they want, you need t get your information off fornits. Be more careful cuz regardless if likeppl like you or I are on here, we got families at home too that dont need the hotility we encountr daily. I may call you a name or get all pissed at you, but seep down I would be upset if anything bad happened. Thats the beauty of these forums I can yell and scream but trully aint going to hurt anyone. It is concerning as to how fast you gt these ppl mad at you and yelling at you. Danny did you consider maybe your feeling insecure about life a bit so your allowing them to attack and bait you? No offense but in this site and the elansurvivorsgoup. com site you are very easily baited. IDK you would think since you worked a bit in the field you would have more sense to blow most of it off then actually take it to heart. Idk thought you would have more grit in ypu, and be strong. Well happy holidays.
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Well what can I say, : I'm, a old softy, and you folks are leather ( pure skin tight leather). I was in this business 31 yrs. ago I don't claim to know Shit really. (I mean that in a good way). I didn't even kno the rules of engaement for these sites I am a newbe with very sensitive skin right now. SO this is what "I am going to do" is regroup and slow down/quite down and be a witness for awhile. I am still being attacked and that will go on, especially w/ folks I was in the Elan w/ they feel betrayed (as I sure you already kno). So I have to find a place within me to deal w/ this. A place where I can be of service always.

Hey thanks for all your help (you really have been; you and F.) Love and Peace Danny
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#30 Post by Danny Bennison » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:48 pm

--- Quote ---Hey everyone it is Monday 12/14 and it is raining here in Georgia. "It's raining Down in Georgia, Oh it's.... "you get it".
I made a attempt to bridge the gap w/ my past involving Elan. This was done in all honesty and with a great deal of emphathy. To have expectations would be very dangerous for me at this time (Emotions), so I pray that my relationship w/ this community can heal and I leave the results to someone or thing to decide. I'll kno in time.
Why do I post this, b/cuz I hope someone like myself will read this and feel hope that they can have the courage to begin the road to become a part of the community they started in as a resident, once I became a employee I set off a chain of events I wish that I never had. It doesn't matter if it was one day or 18mons. (as in my case) or how young I was. IT is not about me now, I get it. Thank God.
I did not post my apology here, as other particapants have. I chose to post it on the site, that I was involved with. They need to see my truth directly.
I am starting to post here often, but most I come here as a student. I have learned so much in my short time, I was floundering in that sea of guilt and shame and you folks helped immensely to bring my ass to shore. My Amends clarified itself "right here".
Ursus, Felice , Phy, bossybee, Joel, Guest,..................and to the (orginator/ 's plural) thank you Danny AS ALWAYS love and peace. P.S. And everyone else not mentioned thanks and have a Happy Holidays!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am proud to have such brothers in Arms on this road. (sisters F.)
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Ursus:
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#31 Post by tjr7777  » Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:26 pm

--- Quote ---Marty,
While i don't agree that Joe Ricci was as you insinuated an innocent angel, Nor do i accept that you were but a pawn in the giant game, I have to ask why it is you waited 30 some years to finally decide it was time to break away... But let me say this http://www.elansurvivorsgroup.com is a safe place for anyone and everyone ever involved or associated with E'lan.. As one the founding members of the site i can offer you safe passage to the site, and assistance in what it appears you are striving for...
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#32 Post by Danny Bennison » Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:08 am

--- Quote ---I am not sure Marty is even posting here,I know this could be a whole lot of fun for some folks. I just hope it is not at the expence of someone b/cuz then we are defeating the purpose of this thread/forum. I think a troll ( MartyDan) has had his/her fun and moved on.
Thanks b/cus I would really like to hear from the serious folks that are suffering out there.
Now I know there are folks that don't appreciate or accept Ex- staff on this Fornits. OK don't want to fight this battle, I can see the war. Take out the Generals/Top Brass and convert them or destroy (Demise) them and you gain ground. I want to shut down every center that resembles Elan, I think I have my niche at going about this, not orginal (not by far) just using tools at my disposal. My focus will stay on Elan until we complete what we started. Love and Peace

P.S. "I said I don't want to fight this battle". What I really mean is I have empathy for you , I can't change what I did but I can change the "Now" one day at a time and show you I am commited to ending this abuse at Elan.
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#33 Post by Sock Monkey » Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:24 am

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--- Quote from: "Danny Bennison" ---I am not sure Marty is even posting here,I know this could be a whole lot of fun for some folks. I just hope it is not at the expence of someone b/cuz then we are defeating the purpose of this thread/forum. I think a troll ( MartyDan) has had his/her fun and moved on.
Thanks b/cus I would really like to hear from the serious folks that are suffering out there.
Now I know there are folks that don't appreciate or accept Ex- staff on this Fornits. OK don't want to fight this battle, I can see the war. Take out the Generals/Top Brass and convert them or destroy (Demise) them and you gain ground. I want to shut down every center that resembles Elan, I think I have my niche at going about this, not orginal (not by far) just using tools at my disposal. My focus will stay on Elan until we complete what we started. Love and Peace

P.S. "I said I don't want to fight this battle". What I really mean is I have empathy for you , I can't change what I did but I can change the "Now" one day at a time and show you I am commited to ending this abuse at Elan.
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Danny shutting down Elan is a far cry from last week when you were telling everyone to do what the Elan family would want everyone to do and to sober up, smarten up, grow up… You were pretty rude to anyone who even asked you polite questions Eliscu2, Ursus, Inculcated and Joel and probably more. Now you’ve changed your tune. If you want people to take you seriously and not be seen as a troll and understand where your coming from you could start by explaining your big flip flop. Did you ever get around to that apology you said you were working on or what?


--- Quote from: "Danny Bennison" ---People find a spirit larger than you and humble yourself. That's what I do today. Peace of mind you don't know how valuable it is until you lost it. Lets move on find solutions and be humane that's what are fellow Elan family would want from us to be of service. Peace and Love Danny
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#34 Post by Danny Bennison » Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:17 am

--- Quote ---Shock Monkey, Keep reading my posts your jumping the gun on this one, just as I did in my defense. I have never condoned, accepted or said really anything in writing or speech that I hope would imply that I am on board w/ fucking Elan.
You were experiencing my virginity on posting to sites and not understanding. BTW why can't you or any of the others you named be accountable for your sarcasism towards me. Is this b/cuz you have been on here longer.
Now I will say I am not going down that slippery slope of anger, hissing , profane verbage , non forgiving that other folks do. Why??????????? I can't afford it I'm 51yrs. old I don't have but maybe 30 yrs. left I refuse to give that power to Elan.
Keep looking for trolls to step on, personally who the fuck cares. My wings are open brother. Holla' as they say in Georgia./
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#35 Post by Danny Bennison » Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:27 am

--- Quote ---Shockly, Flip Flop com'on you haven't been doing your Homework Dude. I am not biting " Do your homework" and I will respond. Remember you brought this up and questioned my character, NO BIG DEAL just asking for clarity. I have posts out there, and untold amounts of writing, tapes and conversations about what I have been posting. Sorry I just did not kno about Fornits Home. So I kind of jumped in, like in the middle of a thought and nobody knew where I was coming from. I got sensitive about feeling ("naked out in the hall and you realized you forgot the key") so com'on give a break with the heavy guns. Love and Peace Danny :cheers:
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Ursus:
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#36 Post by Danny Bennison » Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:31 pm

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--- Quote from: "Danny Bennison" ---Hey everyone it is Monday 12/14 and it is raining here in Georgia. "It's raining Down in Georgia, Oh it's.... "you get it".
I made a attempt to bridge the gap w/ my past involving Elan. This was done in all honesty and with a great deal of emphathy. To have expectations would be very dangerous for me at this time (Emotions), so I pray that my relationship w/ this community can heal and I leave the results to someone or thing to decide. I'll kno in time.
Why do I post this, b/cuz I hope someone like myself will read this and feel hope that they can have the courage to begin the road to become a part of the community they started in as a resident, once I became a employee I set off a chain of events I wish that I never had. It doesn't matter if it was one day or 18mons. (as in my case) or how young I was. IT is not about me now, I get it. Thank God.
I did not post my apology here, as other particapants have. I chose to post it on the site, that I was involved with. They need to see my truth directly.
I am starting to post here often, but most I come here as a student. I have learned so much in my short time, I was floundering in that sea of guilt and shame and you folks helped immensely to bring my ass to shore. My Amends clarified itself "right here".
Ursus, Felice , Phy, bossybee, Joel, Guest,..................and to the (orginator/ 's plural) thank you Danny AS ALWAYS love and peace. P.S. And everyone else not mentioned thanks and have a Happy Holidays!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am proud to have such brothers in Arms on this road. (sisters F.)
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Joel,
You asked where my apology is/was, "one page back" (2), thou it may not have officially looked the part, the compact version was there. The actual "one" as it states (above in the quote) is on "Elan's" site where it belongs for now. Thanks for inquiring.
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#37 Post by Danny Bennison » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:15 pm

--- Quote ---I have not posted here in a few days or so. I was hoping there would be more dialog w/ staffers...ect, maybe it is to early still not enough folks kno this is here. I'll tell ya' thou I see alot of (ex) staff communicating w/ their previous treatment centers. Which as I saw in one post here is causing distress for this one member. The Ex-staff was saying they hadn't caused any abuse @ this center. Now I am not obviously saying this happens w/all ex-staff or will infer a general reaction like that.
Yet, I am a little taken back by the lack of awareness of the consequences, of such remarks being posted on your student/
residents F/B site.
(This was me @ one time in my life) monopolized w/ a dispassion for myself and what I went through as a resident @ Elan....Then I carried this out to the residences w/ a indignation, as if saying, " Hey I went through it, so shut up and do it". That's is my reality...how immature I was. This plight I was in (my universe) sucked.
Folks we need to help, Ex- employees we need to pay attention and stop the "abuse" even after we are gone. I need heed and listen. Thanks Love and Peace Danny
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Matt C. Hoffman:
Hey Folks ,

This is an apology to Felice ,Mark, Sharon and anyone else that I may have offened by passing on what I had believed to be true.

It is hard for me to describe my feelings or position about bennision. I feel very tricked off, probably sums it up. I did not know that these posts existed ,nor many of the other posts that bennison had written.

Where these things went I don't know ,seemed like whole topics got deleted and I really appreacate the efforts by Ursus and Felice ,Ginger to find these topics and get them back on the elan Fornits site.

It was later than I thought when I first believed you .... yes danny thats for you. (and only you) since I know you read these posts. disrespect gimme a break... you are jamming crap own peoples throats and people don't like it , You are too wrapped up in your what works for you mentally that you seem to feel that it should work for everyone else.

Funny its how elan and ricci and his henchmen felt. The apple didn't fall far boy, from that tree.

You know I am glad for you that you found something that works for you.  

I am amazed at your insensitivity to other program suviviors who had the 12 crammed down their throats along with their particular brand of program wash. It blows my mind that you can't seem to realize what you are doing.

You are re-traumatizing other program suviviours. Who in the hell are you to do that! What program director fairy has given you this insane right . Blows my little mind that you just don't get it.

Back in elan it was known as throwing up peoples areas just so you know exactly what I'm talking about.

This bringsngs me back to my original point . Yes danny and I have had a few telephone conversations. from these conversations I truly was led to believe that danny was "just a delivery driver ,gopher,ect. that he wasn't really staff. Sure we shot the breeze remembering a lot of people. but never once did danny tell me what he posted on the facebook page about how he was a driver for only two months, and what his role was in parsonsfield and elan 7.

Therefore I feel that I mislead good people in passing on what I thought was true about danny and actually I do feel pretty stupid. (Mark you know)

I guess it was too good to be true ,that an ex -assistant director would come forward and really want to try to help expose elan and its inner workings.  

Wish in one hand and spit in the other ,see which one fills up the faster. (good old boy saying about wishing)

I do appreacate the fact that though I was wrong in my beliefs about the boy , that none of y'all fornits folks let me have it about this issue. I seriously mean it thank you. I don't know if it was that maybe I would see the light eventually or what , I really thank you.

Now danny one thing you need to really remember is that you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all the people all the time .

trick me off shame on me , trick me off twice shame on you.

peace

Matt

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