2nd reply......Femanon you don't belong there so it will sound that way, it's like Country Music some folks here, "she left me boo hoo hooo" I here beautiful melodies and strings the older the better. Conway Twitty, George Jones, Johnny Cash, Jr, Wylon Jenning ect.....sweet music.
Hang around long enough here you will be singing another tune. People change and in AA those whiners after a while they stop and life gets better. So there is nothing to complain about.
I don't know who told you "that everytime you talk about your past it damages your psyche" but they ought to stop....lol.
Like I said your hearing what your hearing and that person sharing is hearing what they need to hear.
Did or have you ever considered this may be helping that person.
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Danny
I just wrote a long reply, then it got deleted by my browser... not to mention I'm really not sure I should even be wasting my time with this response in the first place, so forgive me if I sound a bit annoyed.
You want to know who told me?... My psychology professor! it's called retraumatization and it is not only detrimental but it's also has the power to take over ones personality and in some cases lead the subject back into self sabotaging behaviors and even violence.
Not sure if you've ever taken a psychology class before in your life but this is a common theme with survivors of traumatic events, and I don't believe it would be a stretch to say addicts fit in this category as well. I have witnessed it first hand, not only with friends (especially program survivors) but with in my family as well, in fact I'm pretty sure this condition is exactly what lead to my cousin committing suicide.
Let's not pretend that because you go to AA that you are some kind of expert, because clearly you are not and in my opinion, because of your ranting and raving here on fornits you are only leading those who are on the fence to discredit you and AA simply because you are the one advocating it. I'm not trying to be rude, nor do I have anything personal against you... as I hope you can tell I like to stay out of the personal drama and stick to discussing the points... But the fact that you have been so one sided, and unwilling to even consider logical reasoning makes us all sick and tired of trying to have a debate with you... it's like screaming at a brick wall :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:
I don't know how much you may know about other programs, but the program I was in DRILLED AA/NA into our heads... I feel like if there are any experts on AA it should be me... At High Impact we literally listened to the BIG BOOK on tape (over and over again) and took tests on it... there came a point where I didn't even have to listen to the question before I knew the answer. I attended hundreds of meetings in my day, in fact it was something of a stipulation for me to not get sent back to casa to go to no less than 3 a week... I've seen it all, and done it all and because of that experience these are the questions I have. If the answer to those questions are just "you don't belong there so it will sound that way" then I believe that in and of itself proves my point.
AA is nothing but a watered down cult perpetrated by the self righteous zealots and drug war politicians... None of it makes sense, in fact most of it is ass backwards and NO ONE should consider AA/NA a legitimate "treatment" for alcoholism or drug addiction... quite frankly it pisses me off that there are so many people who are really in need of help and this is all they can get.
That being said, I am glad you have found the personal strength to improve your life, be it with the help of AA or not you have accomplished a truly remarkable feat and I commend you for that... I wouldn't be so quick to pass off the credit to AA tho, I would be very adimit to say that you and you alone earned the credit. In fact I bet you could leave AA right now and as long as you have faith in yourself and don't question your strength without AA you would be just fine without it.
I hope you don't mind but I've said all I can say here, and it looks like you are all too busy bickering to really debate this subject so I think its best if I just leave it well alone. Best of luck to you.
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