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Re: DSM-V Shadow Team now taking comments

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SEKTO:
This has only been proposed (so I am told), and is nothing that has been set in stone.  Don't anybody get their panties in a wad over it.  Nothing will be decided upon and implemented until over three years from now.

DannyB II:
Trying to diagnose myself but I have a problem, to many to choose from. I seem to be able to identify with all. I know I have "CIPD", Collective Integration Personality Disorder. I collect personality disorders and integrate them. Ya know like a goulash, everything left around the kitchen dumped into the pot with some noodles. Looks horrible but tastes great. At least that's what my mom called her Hungarian Goulash.
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http://www.dsm5.org/ProposedRevisions/P ... rders.aspx
DSM-IV Disorders Being Recommended for Reformulation

301.0 Paranoid Personality Disorder
301.20 Schizoid Personality Disorder
301.22 Schizotypal Personality Disorder
301.7 Antisocial Personality Disorder
301.83 Borderline Personality Disorder
301.50 Histrionic Personality Disorder
301.81 Narcissistic Personality Disorder
301.82 Avoidant Personality Disorder
301.6 Dependent Personality Disorder
301.4 Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder
301.9 Personality Disorder Not Otherwise Specified

 Appendix B Diagnosis: Depressive Personality Disorder
 Appendix B Diagnosis: Passive-Aggressive (Negativistic) Personality Disorder
 General Diagnostic Criteria for Personality Disorder

 :shamrock:  :shamrock:
Danny.......

RTP2003:

--- Quote from: "Eliscu2" ---Intermittent Visual Nose Picking Disorder (IVNPD)

IVNPD is primarily characterized by unpredictable episodes or experiences compromised by the imagined perception of lights, patterns or objects in the visual cortex during intense nose picking excavations.

Source: Page 233 of the DSM-IV-FE*



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This is hilarious, or would be if the rest of the damn thing weren't so, well, creepy.  I was wondering about the above disorder, though--what if the episodes can be linked to mornings after a night of insufflated drug abuse, such as snorting cocaine, heroin, xanax, or other drugs, particularly those that leave significant mucus encrustation?  Would this factor in, or is a new diagnosis indicated?

Joel:
Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010

SEKTO:

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--- Quote from: "SEKTO" ---...the ICD was first published before the DSM was.  So, why did the American Psychological Association the create DSM in the first place?  Why not, instead of trying to bring the DSM into concordance with the ICD and vice-versa, produce just one reference book that would set the international standard for diagnosis, epidemiology, and classification?   It seems like in the longer run, such a move would end much confusion, and would be a generally simpler, yet more elegant and "streamlined" system for everyone concerned.
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Because the Americans (i.e., the APA, in this case) want(s) more control of it.

See also:

The Americanization of Mental Illness
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The other day I asked my Abnormal Psych professor (himself a practicing psychiatrist) this very question, the one about why the DSM is used over the ICD in this country, even though the ICD is known internationally to be both more reliable and valid than the DSM.  It was during his office hours, when it was just he and I.  His is a DSM-based class.  We have to study that stuff assiduously.

In answering my question, he kind of smirked and said, "For the same reason that the rest of the world uses the metric system and we don't.  We're Americans, and we just have to do things differently, and somehow need to think that we're more advanced than everybody else.  And of course, the insurance companies have to get their piece."

So even he agreed that the supremacy of the DSM is a myth (even as he is teaching it) and that Big Pharm is a scam, but also said basically that clinicians are forced to do the best they can with what they've got.  I respect him for his candor.

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