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mark babitz:
I was one of the three kids that returned obviously, it was the time of my life I could sneer at my captors and they couldn't do shit, so I thought ,once I got Personified, I did have some fun and stayed out of groups and hair-cuts etc, but my fun ran out after I bolted a couple of times. They put me in Personified so I would be safe??????. But I asked for it, and it was quite a blur in contrast to some of the things I have seen in life, so I always disregarded it until I started reading some of the things allot of people were saying now. And said that is fucked up, and some kids aren't like me and just suck it up and adapt.I see were it could be quite traumatic for people of weaker mental tolerances, I tried to put that gently.Just some people are harder than others and thats fine , but dont put them both in the same positions knowing one will fold.Thats fucked -up
mark babitz:
:notworthy: :soapbox: :karma: :rocker: :jamin: :cheers: :cheers: :rasta: :rasta: :jamin: :rasta: ::OMG::
mark babitz:
Wake up, Ebenezer Sembler before it's too late
Sun, 2009-01-04 11:14 — WesleyFager
Ambassador Sembler dines in luxury while the little boy injured at Baywalk is about to be evicted.
Mankind was my business. The ghost of Jacob Marley from "A Christmas Carol."
In February 2007 a speaker fell on 4 year old Josiah Wineberger from a second story balcony at the Baywalk Shopping Center in St. Petersburg, Fl., crushing him and fracturing his skull. Doctors said he would never walk again, but, with intense physical therapy, Josiah is not only walking but he's talking like any boy his age.
Melvin Sembler, AO, is our former ambassador to Italy. If you are familiar with Ambassador Sembler you know that he and his wife Betty founded and operated Straight, Inc., a national-level, juvenile substance abuse treatment program, for 17 years. The abuse that kids sustained at Straight, Inc. are a national disgrace and over 40 former clients have committed suicide.
Straight earned $100 million--tax free. But that's peanuts to Ambassador Sembler who makes his real money building and leasing shopping centers. Shopping centers like Baywalk where Josiah Wineberger was nearly killed last year. The Semblers live a life of opulence, traveling from here to there anywhere in the world in their private jet. In 2003 the Semblers held
The Mother of all Toga Parties (turn on sound before linking) in Rome when they celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary at their Magic Kingdom by inviting all the Who's Who's from St. Petersburg and Washington.
Mel Sembler even convinced the US Congress to buy a $100 million memorial in Rome to honor his greatness.
But while Mel and Betty were eating caviar this Hanukkah, the Wineberger's position worsened. The day after Christmas, an electrical fire sparked in their home and now the fire department has declared it unsafe to live in. Worse still, the home is facing foreclosure.
You might recall that Ambassador Sembler once sued Ray Bradbury for recovery of a medical device, but much to his chagrin, the story made international news. Sembler had thought that Bradbury would cave, we suppose, but Bradbury did not, and the judge finally set a trial date for April 10 - April 21, 2006. The ambassador did not want the trial to go on so he made a motion (and the judge granted it) to postpone it. Why? He decided to take his family on a holiday. He decided to fly his entire family to Israel for the Passover from April 10 to April 20! So we know the Semblers do enjoy their religious retreats.
Mr. Sembler, thousands of kids have been harmed by you at Straight. You have a reputation for sticking it to your fellow citizens in your business dealings. Couldn't you spare a little change to help Josiah Wineberger and his family this holiday. It would not have to be an admission of guilt. Just a gesture to lend a hand to someone hurt at one of your projects.
It's a tradition in my family to watch "A Christmas Carol" each year around this time. We always watch the 1951 movie version starring Alistair Simms. When the third spirit takes Ebenezer Scrooge to his future grave, it chills me to the bone because I know Dickens is speaking directly to me. I'm old Mel, but you're older. Maybe you and I had better wake up.
Here's a link to the Josiah Wineberger story.
::OMG::
RavingMad:
mark bare with me here ok..i dont get it. plz explain it to me a bit i just got lost in the meaning of your posting. the way i am taking it is that it is not too late for ppl to turn around admit mistakes and do the right thing? is this a fair assessment?
mark babitz:
I dont understand your question. i posted the things above to show the lack of out reach Elan has for students once gone from the program. And it was what I corrected some of my thinking about the Elan experience.I thought a letter like that would have spurred some response and maybe a thank you for being loyal. I received nothing and thats when I realized this place was and is as fucked up as I thought all along but blamed it on myself and mixed up thought and recall.Also it kind of verifies I know what I am talking about as far as Elan and its after care policies. I tried and contact Marty and Jeff never a response why?? I left 10 messages for Jeff nice ones,and no response. I guess they are so involved in guilt that they are afraid to respond. This letter was prior to me making any public statements against Elan. :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jamin: :jamin: :rocker: :rocker: :rocker: The Sembler portion is just an example of how people like Joe and Sharon can be dealt with. Obviously not Joe anymore.
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