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Report: Sex abuse high at 13 juvenile centers

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none-ya:
whooter wrote:

--- Quote ---Parents would be wise to choose a smaller local, private program vs a larger state run facility.
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It would seem that parents should find a way to keep their kids at home and protect them.
Not just turn them over to strangers (public or private),and cross their fingers.
It's just not safe to be a kid anymore!

Ursus:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Studies typically report results on a statistical bases so what they are saying is the “rate of sexual abuse” is lower in the private sector and smaller programs.  So the thinking still holds true in my opinion.  Parents would be wise to choose a smaller local, private program vs a larger state run facility.
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The brainwashing is also more effective in many of those smaller private programs, that is, those which are invested in thought reform. Kids are often taught to regard staff initiated sexual assaults as being basically the kid's fault.

none-ya:
Ursus wrote:

--- Quote ---Kids are often taught to regard staff initiated sexual assaults as being basically the kid's fault.
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Or part of their therapy

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Studies typically report results on a statistical bases so what they are saying is the “rate of sexual abuse” is lower in the private sector and smaller programs.  So the thinking still holds true in my opinion.  Parents would be wise to choose a smaller local, private program vs a larger state run facility.
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The brainwashing is also more effective in many of those smaller private programs, that is, those which are invested in thought reform. Kids are often taught to regard staff initiated sexual assaults as being basically the kid's fault.
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I have never seen any studies (to date) which support that brainwashing is more effective in smaller vs larger programs, although it would make an interesting observation.  I have also never seen any documentation to support kids being taught by staff that sexual assaults, being the  childs fault, is common place.  

I would guess from your post, Ursus, that you did not fare well yourself from being in a program and that you had a bad experience.  Bad experiences do occur in all industries but there is no data to suggest that what you speak of is the norm.



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Ursus:
My post ... pertains to the topic of this thread, and in reply to your comment. As to smaller programs, I was referring specifically to the "private sector and smaller programs" that you brought up in said comment, perhaps more explicitly referred to as the "parent-choice" programs you are so fond of defending.

I brought up coercive thought reform as a probable variable which might result in under-reporting the "rate of sexual abuse" in certain types of programs, namely, the parent-choice industry which does employ thought reform. Many folk have commented on a difference in the psychological climate of private programs vs. juvenile detention centers. To my mind, I think there are also quite a few programs that are intermediate.

How many CEDU folk used to think that smooshing and laying your head in a faculty member's lap was a sign of genuine care and concern at one point? What about spooning on the couch with your counselor at Carlbrook? There are plenty of similar examples for other programs...

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