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Froderik:
The Faith/Void split EP. Ah, yes. I remember being 15 or 16 in DC at the Wilson Center after some bands got done playing and people were hawking that album. I don't think I ever actually heard it until I was in the program. That's some great DC-Core. Alec MacKaye (Faith singer)is a good guy. I hung out with him a few times long after I was out. He used to visit the Lungfish people who are good friends of mine, and who I roadied for on their 1st three US tours. Good times.  :tup:

Antigen:
"Don't allow men to be happy. Happiness is self-contained and self sufficient. Happy men have no time and no use for you. Happy men are free men. So kill their joy in living. Take away from them whatever is dear or important to them. Never let them have what they want. Make them feel that the mere fact of a personal desire is evil. Bring them to a state where saying 'I want' is no longer a natural right but a shameful admission. Altruism is of great help in this. Unhappy men will come to you. They'll need you. They'll come for consolation, for support, for escape. Nature allows no vacuum. Empty Man's soul- and the space is yours to fill".

Ayn Rand: The Fountainhead

Don't laugh when you leave this courtroom, thinking you have beat the system because you have looked these things up yourself. We are going to get you down the road.
Washington Superior CourtJudge Rebecca Baker
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Froderik:
Deep Thoughts

anon:
Patrick Henry, who is called the firebrand of the American
Revolution, is still remembered for his words, '"Give me liberty or give
me death."' But in current textbooks the context of these words is deleted. Here is what he actually said:
"An appeal to arms and the God
of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone.
There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The
battle sir, is not to the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet
as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty
God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me
liberty, or give me death."'

 In 1776, he wrote this '"It cannot be
emphasized too strongly or too often that this great Nation was founded
not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the
Gospel of Jesus Christ. For that reason alone, people of other faiths
have been afforded freedom of worship here."'

Consider these words that Thomas Jefferson wrote on the front of his
well-worn Bible:
"I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of
the doctrines of Jesus. I have little doubt that our whole country will
soon be rallied to the unity of our Creator "' He was also the chairman
of the American Bible Society, which he considered his highest and most
important role.

On July 4, 1821, President Adams said,
"The highest glory of the
American Revolution was this: it connected in one indissoluble bond the
principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity."'

Calvin Coolidge, our 30th President of the United States reaffirmed this
truth when he wrote, '"The foundations of our society and our government
rest so much on the teachings of the Bible that it would be difficult to
support them if faith in these teachings would cease to be practically
universal in our country."'

kaydeejaded:
Yeah Patrick Henry was totally against the bicameral (sp?) legislative system proposed by James Madison and his Virgina plan

with the 2 branches the pres. ect

he feared that the president would strip the power from the states which was what federalisim was all about in the 1st place

he was so right, brilliant man he knew human nature he knew that there was no way states and a strong solid government could truely co-exsist

Bingo

Madison's response was that if any "state" felt their rights were being infringed upon they could "bare arms" leave the union.

Then came the civil war they did just last but they did not win. The fact that they were wrong or right I am not debating what my point is that the right to leave the union is there but you may very well be beaten into submission

in the end so much has changed but really not a damn thing

did that make sense????  :???:
I tried not to work for, you know, anyone who ate children with their bare hands. I won't pretend that I was ideologically consistent.


--Dick Morris; Political consultant for Bill Clinton, Trent Lott and Tom Ridge
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