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Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2003-09-11 14:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
That fact was not in the contract.
Or the glossy brochures.
I TRUSTED our Family Rep.
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Anon, I'd be lying to you if I said I don't harbour a shadow of mistrust and animosity toward any parent who would buy into what the Program has to sell. That goes for my own father, who wound up being one of my few living heros and, hands down, best and most trusted blood relative.
But that's not a logical, intellectual assesment. That's an entirely emotional gut response based on the fear and loathing inspired in me by the fact that the "Teen Help" industry is growing around as fast as the prison services industry.
I think that if I hadn't seen what I've seen and experience what I've experienced, my own daughter might well have landed up under some form of forced treatment when Officer Friendly advixed me to make a false complaint against her for assault so that he could 'help' her.
Please don't take this the wrong way, folks. I'm not casting blame as a means to direct punishment or emotional abuse or anything. But I sincerely hope and would sleep better knowing that ya'll have learned from your mistakes in this. Sure. WWASP has some slick sales pitches. So do they all. But I can't forget that the cop accross the street, my best childhood friend's father, didn't buy into it when my mother tried to pitch him on The Seed. And I've spoken to people in recent years who got up and walked out of the intake interview simply because they realized, without any special inside info, that these people were nothing but shady snake oil salesmen.
I hope ya'll understand and spread the word on this time proven idea; "Don't take candy from strangers."
It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion.
--Joseph Goebbels
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Anonymous:
Re: The guy who wrote the book about how the NYT is biased to the left. If this is so, how the hell did they go after Clinton on the travel office thing, Monica and Whitewater for so long so hard? They were way harder on Clinton than they are being on Bush. This guy conveniently ignored that in his "analysis"
Of course, all newspapers have biases-- but the Times' bias is the establishment bias, not left or right. It's conventional wisdom bias, which is why when they cover WWASP, they have to "balance" stories of abuse with stories of satisfied customers.
Re: medications.
Prozac and Paxil are *not* at all the same drug. They are in the same class of drugs, but as anyone who has ever talked to anyone about this class of drugs will know, individual reactions vary widely to drugs within the same class. Also, Paxil is known to have serious withdrawal symptoms if stopped abruptly, whereas Prozac does not.
Despite the biases of some people on this board against medications, there is lots of evidence to suggest that they help lots of people and while every medication has side effects, the evidence that there is widespread harm just isn't there. Sure, some drugs are wrong for some people. they should stop taking such drugs if they aren't helping.
Antigen:
I'm not biased against drug use. I understand that most of the natural substances we think of as cooking spices contain medically active componants.
I'm extremel biased against authoritarian control over individuals' drug choices.
What is ominous is the ease with which some people go from saying that
they don't like something to saying that the government should forbid it. When you go down that road, don't expect freedom to survive very long.
--Thomas Sowell
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Deborah:
Also, Paxil is known to have serious withdrawal symptoms if stopped abruptly, whereas Prozac does not.
Guess that does depend on how one defines "serious". My friend stopped abruptly and was a basket case. Wanted to die. She's a PhD Child Psychologist, btw. Several of us were checking on her around the clock.
Here's a very informative website. Among other things, it define side effects and symptoms in layman's terms.
http://www.prozactruth.com/index.html
An an article from ABC
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/D ... 00524.html
I had no idea Prozac was $150 for 30 pills. How are people, like the mother in this story, affording it? How much of our tax dollars are paying for these drugs?
[ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2003-09-11 17:21 ]
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2003-09-11 14:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
"The Doctor who wasnt really a Doctor, provided by SCL Family Rep, prescribed for my child zyprex.
He misrepresented to me at the time the purpose for this prescription.
Not acceptable to me at all.
They are drugging the kids in place of quaility services.
Mass warehousing of kids easily controlled, stoned on physcotic drugs. Unacceptable to me.
That fact was not in the contract.
Or the glossy brochures.
I TRUSTED our Family Rep.
"
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Doubt is the vestibule which all must pass before they can enter the
temple of wisdom. When we are in doubt and puzzle out the truth by our
own exertions, we have gained something that will stay by us and will
serve us again. But if to avoid the trouble of the search we avail
ourselves of the superior information of a friend, such knowledge will
not remain with us; we have not bought, but borrowed it.
- Charles Caleb Cotton, philosopher
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