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Re: Summary: Devastating Indictment of TheWho
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2009, 02:19:53 PM »
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It would only make sense that the PM was made up.  Why else would he run away from having it authenticated?

You lobotomized monkey ass bitch.  What kind of "sense" are you finding in this?  Reuben got caught and now he's pissing and moaning.  The forums have been flooded with the most juvenile trolling from the industry after Reuben was exposed.  Not a very dignified way to go down, frothing with impotent rage and posting schoolboy porn. They didn't teach you to be a man at Military academy or even a good loser, and John?  You are indeed a fucking loser.  Pack up and find a new obsession that does not kill other people's kids.  Does encouraging other families to make the same massive mistake as you assuage your guilt?

Really, it's almost painfully embarrassing to watch you behave this way.   Mikey is somewhere laughing his ass off at your current dilemma and the way parents will react when they Google "John D. Reuben" or "STICC".  It is sweet I am sure.
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Re: Summary: Devastating Indictment of TheWho
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2009, 12:28:35 PM »
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Oh, boy.  This quote probably goes further than any in the entire "indictment" of TheWho.  This one is a zinger.  You know how TheWho is always saying he "has no ties to the industry" or He's "just a regular parent"?  Well, he he is admitting otherwise:

Quote from: "TheWho"
Quote from: ""RobertBruce""
Oh no no no Cindy, you claimed there was a "long debate" and that it was decided that "we" were only going to look at TBS's as you define them.

Who specifically is "we"?

The debate was long, Bob...  many wanted to start with "Wilderness data" and I argued that the real money was in the TBS industry, so lets start there, although wilderness is usually the inital phase of any decent TBS.  So we went round and round....you, Bob have been a key player in collecting and presenting data on the entire industry and I have been focusing on small segments at a time.
I dont want to put names out there, people want to be anon's.

Whooter is evidently an expert on "where the money's at" in the Troubled Teen Industry.  Why would he try to pass himself off as something other than an industry guy?  That's not honest at all.


Whooter, please explain your direct quote above so that readers can understand your role in the troubled teen industry.  Who was at this meeting you attended?  Why would a "regular parent" go to a meeting like this?  How did you determine where "there real money is" and why?

Forgive me if I seem repetitive, but your assertion that you have no ties to the TTI and your statement above are mutually exclusive and require your explanation.

Whooter, please explain why you said the things above.  Tell us about the meeting, who was there, why you flew 1200 miles to go there and explain "where the real money is".  People have a right to know your position in the TTI and why you attend meetings like this.  Why are you avoiding your own previous statements?
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Re: Summary: Devastating Indictment of TheWho
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2009, 10:56:46 AM »
Whooter, please explain your undoctored, original comments above.
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Re: Summary: Devastating Indictment of TheWho
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2009, 06:44:23 PM »
Quote from: "TheWho"
Exactly, The customer is the parent, the product is the child. The schools will respond primarily/initially to the needs of the parent not the child...

Whooter has big problems.  Here he admits the child's needs won't be responded to because the program caters to the parents' needs, not the child's.  

"the product is the child"  Oh, my God.  This is a very sick and twisted individual to think this way!
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Re: Summary: Devastating Indictment of TheWho
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2009, 06:47:59 PM »
Whooter is probably laughing his ass off because you idiots keep writing responses full of crap. I would be laughing my ass of if I were Whooter. Whooter let these fools complain for 30 more pages.
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Re: Summary: Devastating Indictment of TheWho
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2009, 06:53:43 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter is really disturbed"
Quote from: "TheWho"
Exactly, The customer is the parent, the product is the child. The schools will respond primarily/initially to the needs of the parent not the child...

Whooter has big problems.  Here he admits the child's needs won't be responded to because the program caters to the parents' needs, not the child's.  

"the product is the child"  Oh, my God.  This is a very sick and twisted individual to think this way!

You think he's laughing his ass off after admitting programs don't even try to help kids and take the parents' money through fraud?  I doubt it.  Plus Aspen's earnings are down 30% this year.  Whooter no likey that.  But I'M laughing my ass off that Whooter's own words prove what a total fraud he is and Aspen is in the shitter TOO!  LOLS.
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Re: Summary: Devastating Indictment of TheWho
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2009, 05:22:40 PM »
Why would anyone laugh at something like this?  Whooter said that children are products and parents are customers.  There's a link to it in this previous post.  If you read a couple of pages before and after Whooter's "children are products statement" in the 250-page plus thread called "TheWho" (where the link above takes you) you will see every other statement he wrote that was quoted in this thread.  He can't deny he said it.  Have a read.  It's a window into a very disturbed mined of a sociopath that thinks "children are products."
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Re: Summary: Devastating Indictment of TheWho
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2010, 01:30:22 PM »
Quote from: "Had to start yet another thread because Whooter is obfuscating and mucking up the other two."
Here's the devasting indictment of TheWho which absolutely shreds his credibility, complete with quotes and links proving beyond a doubt that TheWho is an unmitigated liar.  Dialogue picks up where Whooter claims the OP cannot prove even the first statement about him, but the OP goes on to prove every one of them:

Quote from: "Guest"
Heck, I'll just go for all of them to save time.

Rebuttal section:

Quote from: "Guest"
Let's keep it short and go over just Whooter's lies from this thread.

Lie #1:  Whooter claims he never went to Chicago for a TTI meeting.
Truth #1:  Whooter had already bragged about it two years ago, but must have forgotten
and was quoted saying he did indeed go to Chicago for a TTI meeting.  This was proven
over Whooter's denials by simply quoting the post where he already admitted it.

Whooter, in his own words, admits to the trip he was just denying.

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #2:  Whooter claims to be just a "regular parent with no ties to

the industry."

Truth #2:  Whooter already admitted he was part of a "statistical group to assess TBS
safety" that met in Chicago.  This was proven over Whooter's denials by simply quoting
the post where he already admitted it.

TheWho admitting to being an industry player and saying TBS "is where the money's at."

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #3:  Whooter claims not be John Reuben.
Truth #3:  whooter has contacted at least one parent from this forum and provided her
the email address "[email protected]" for her to contact him "outside of Fornits"
because "everyone here has an agenda to discredit programs."  The email address has
been verified to be that of John Reuben and is the admin email account at
savingteens.org.  This was proven by posting the original PM from TheWho to Concerned
Parent, which TheWho subsequently altered in a quote and copped to altering it when
called out.

TheWho's PM to Concerned Parent is posted in its entirety.

Whois search for savingteens.org shows the email address Whooter provided belongs to John Reuben.


Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #4:  RobertBruce is "Concerned Parent."
Truth #4:  Whooter dropped this claim and went on to blame someone else for being
"Concerned Parent."  Interestingly enough, Whooter has actually claimed to BE
RobertBruce many times and later copped to fabricating at least one "lookalike"
RobertBruce login to try to impersonate him (the login he admitted to creating "for
fun" was 'RobertBruce .' with a space and a period at the end).

Whooter begins his claim that RobertBruce is "Concerned Parent."

Whooter continues to hammer at the meme "Concerned Parent is RobertBruce" without a shred of evidence to suggest that.

...and hammering it some more...

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #5:  Ajax13 is "Concerned Parent."
Truth #5:  Ajax13 is not Concerned Parent, but Whooter clings to this meme like a life
raft anyway.

Here we have Whooter denying being himself, posting as "Dick Cheney" claiming Ajax13 and not RobertBruce "fabricated the PM."

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #6:  Ajax13 AND RobertBruce are "Concerned Parent."
Truth #6:  Both are provably NOT "Concerned Parent."  Whooter seems to have dropped
this notion now because obviously they both couldn't be "Concerned Parent" at the same
time, but that simple logic didn't stop him from floating it to distract from the
conversation.

Here Whooter claims both RobertBruce and Ajax13 are "Concerned Parent."  Now he's veering all over the place grasping at straws with no proof.

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #7:  Whooter claimed to have no criminal record when
confronted.

Truth #7:  Whooter had already admitted years ago, on this board, that he was "arrested
several times in Boston and once in Ann Arbor Michigan."

Whooter admitting to being arrested "many times in Boston" and elsewhere.

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #8:  Whooter claims not to have lied at all.
Truth #8:  Whooter has been caught lying like a rug using only his own posts and PMs as
evidence of the lies.  Essentially, he lied about everything, then had to walk it all
back piece by piece as he was caught again and again.  Now the only thing from the
above list he won't cop to is being Reuben, but considering he lied about and was
proven lying about the rest of the items in this thread, his  assertion is just him
howling from being bitten so badly.

No link required, see above.  ; )

Quote from: "Guest"
So, that's 8 full-fledged, lie-through-your-teeth prevarications
offered by TheWho in just this single thread.
 People should believe him for what
reason now?

Sorry, Whooter, your lying chickens have come home to roost and nobody here believes
anything you say anymore.  Better luck next time.

Whooter has been fully owned yet again and busted out lying through his teeth yet
again.  Whooter, you better try something else, like going back to trolling with
endless emoticons to slow the page loading, because you are SO BUSTED in YOUR OWN WORDS
and you just can't hide anymore.  Your legacy here has cought up to you and just won't
go away.  Can't escape those facts, son.

What a smackdown, people!  Finally TheWho is held to account for all of his lies here.  He's very upset about it, too.

"Regular Parent," my ass... :moon:  :rofl:
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Re: Summary: Devastating Indictment of TheWho
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2010, 01:39:45 PM »
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
Quote from: "Had to start yet another thread because Whooter is obfuscating and mucking up the other two."
Here's the devasting indictment of TheWho which absolutely shreds his credibility, complete with quotes and links proving beyond a doubt that TheWho is an unmitigated liar.  Dialogue picks up where Whooter claims the OP cannot prove even the first statement about him, but the OP goes on to prove every one of them:

Quote from: "Guest"
Heck, I'll just go for all of them to save time.

Rebuttal section:

Quote from: "Guest"
Let's keep it short and go over just Whooter's lies from this thread.

Lie #1:  Whooter claims he never went to Chicago for a TTI meeting.
Truth #1:  Whooter had already bragged about it two years ago, but must have forgotten
and was quoted saying he did indeed go to Chicago for a TTI meeting.  This was proven
over Whooter's denials by simply quoting the post where he already admitted it.

Whooter, in his own words, admits to the trip he was just denying.

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #2:  Whooter claims to be just a "regular parent with no ties to

the industry."

Truth #2:  Whooter already admitted he was part of a "statistical group to assess TBS
safety" that met in Chicago.  This was proven over Whooter's denials by simply quoting
the post where he already admitted it.

TheWho admitting to being an industry player and saying TBS "is where the money's at."

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #3:  Whooter claims not be John Reuben.
Truth #3:  whooter has contacted at least one parent from this forum and provided her
the email address "[email protected]" for her to contact him "outside of Fornits"
because "everyone here has an agenda to discredit programs."  The email address has
been verified to be that of John Reuben and is the admin email account at
savingteens.org.  This was proven by posting the original PM from TheWho to Concerned
Parent, which TheWho subsequently altered in a quote and copped to altering it when
called out.

TheWho's PM to Concerned Parent is posted in its entirety.

Whois search for savingteens.org shows the email address Whooter provided belongs to John Reuben.


Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #4:  RobertBruce is "Concerned Parent."
Truth #4:  Whooter dropped this claim and went on to blame someone else for being
"Concerned Parent."  Interestingly enough, Whooter has actually claimed to BE
RobertBruce many times and later copped to fabricating at least one "lookalike"
RobertBruce login to try to impersonate him (the login he admitted to creating "for
fun" was 'RobertBruce .' with a space and a period at the end).

Whooter begins his claim that RobertBruce is "Concerned Parent."

Whooter continues to hammer at the meme "Concerned Parent is RobertBruce" without a shred of evidence to suggest that.

...and hammering it some more...

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #5:  Ajax13 is "Concerned Parent."
Truth #5:  Ajax13 is not Concerned Parent, but Whooter clings to this meme like a life
raft anyway.

Here we have Whooter denying being himself, posting as "Dick Cheney" claiming Ajax13 and not RobertBruce "fabricated the PM."

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #6:  Ajax13 AND RobertBruce are "Concerned Parent."
Truth #6:  Both are provably NOT "Concerned Parent."  Whooter seems to have dropped
this notion now because obviously they both couldn't be "Concerned Parent" at the same
time, but that simple logic didn't stop him from floating it to distract from the
conversation.

Here Whooter claims both RobertBruce and Ajax13 are "Concerned Parent."  Now he's veering all over the place grasping at straws with no proof.

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #7:  Whooter claimed to have no criminal record when
confronted.

Truth #7:  Whooter had already admitted years ago, on this board, that he was "arrested
several times in Boston and once in Ann Arbor Michigan."

Whooter admitting to being arrested "many times in Boston" and elsewhere.

Quote from: "Guest"
Lie #8:  Whooter claims not to have lied at all.
Truth #8:  Whooter has been caught lying like a rug using only his own posts and PMs as
evidence of the lies.  Essentially, he lied about everything, then had to walk it all
back piece by piece as he was caught again and again.  Now the only thing from the
above list he won't cop to is being Reuben, but considering he lied about and was
proven lying about the rest of the items in this thread, his  assertion is just him
howling from being bitten so badly.

No link required, see above.  ; )

Quote from: "Guest"
So, that's 8 full-fledged, lie-through-your-teeth prevarications
offered by TheWho in just this single thread.
 People should believe him for what
reason now?

Sorry, Whooter, your lying chickens have come home to roost and nobody here believes
anything you say anymore.  Better luck next time.

Whooter has been fully owned yet again and busted out lying through his teeth yet
again.  Whooter, you better try something else, like going back to trolling with
endless emoticons to slow the page loading, because you are SO BUSTED in YOUR OWN WORDS
and you just can't hide anymore.  Your legacy here has cought up to you and just won't
go away.  Can't escape those facts, son.

What a smackdown, people!  Finally TheWho is held to account for all of his lies here.  He's very upset about it, too.

"Regular Parent," my ass... :moon:  :rofl:

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Ya kno I've read this trash so many times, that it is still trash. Why don't you go get a life DF or better yet go bust some TC for abusing something and get off this phony ego trip of yours.
What are you bored want some conversation. Whooter has not posted in a while, lets see if we can shake the trees and see if something falls. This is exactly what you sick fucks like to do, fuck with people. Then spin it around and say, "hey look at you, you started this".
Go flog yourself pal, we would all like to here how that went.
Oh and lets talk about his children......nice. "POS"

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Re: Summary: Devastating Indictment of TheWho
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2010, 01:44:10 PM »
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:shamrock:  :shamrock:
Ya kno I've read this trash so many times, that it is still trash. Why don't you go get a life DF or better yet go bust some TC for abusing something and get off this phony ego trip of yours.
What are you bored want some conversation. Whooter has not posted in a while, lets see if we can shake the trees and see if something falls. This is exactly what you sick fucks like to do, fuck with people. Then spin it around and say, "hey look at you, you started this".
Go flog yourself pal, we would all like to here how that went.
Oh and lets talk about his children......nice. "POS"

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I don't see anyone forcing you to read it, Danny. Why bother to even comment, if that's really the way you feel?
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Re: Summary: Devastating Indictment of TheWho
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2010, 01:47:26 PM »
Cause Danny ...viewtopic.php?f=22&t=30150&p=359817#p359817
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Re: Summary: Devastating Indictment of TheWho
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2010, 01:48:56 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter is really disturbed"
Quote from: "TheWho"
Exactly, The customer is the parent, the product is the child. The schools will respond primarily/initially to the needs of the parent not the child...

Whooter has big problems.  Here he admits the child's needs won't be responded to because the program caters to the parents' needs, not the child's.  

"the product is the child"  Oh, my God.  This is a very sick and twisted individual to think this way!

Why am I not surprised?  

This really is what it's all about.  Making the parents happy and guilt free.  It's never been about helping kids.  Parents can send their kids away and then be reassured that everything is the kid's fault and that the program will fix 'em, make nice little robot drones out of them and then send back a 'happy, joyous and free' child.  ::)

Yanno what people??  Raising kids is hard.  Really hard.  It's the most important and most difficult job we'll ever have.  You don't get to farm out your responsibility when it gets tough.  That's when they need us the most.
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Re: Summary: Devastating Indictment of TheWho
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2010, 02:08:13 PM »
Hey, Danny, why don't you let me know when you're in my area and I'll just kick your ass and get it over with?  Dude, seriously, you are just an a-hole and it seems like you have enough battles on your hands already.  Go to a meeting or something, man.  You dry-drunks can be really annoying.
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Re: Summary: Devastating Indictment of TheWho
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Re: Summary: Devastating Indictment of TheWho
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2010, 02:28:06 PM »
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
Hey, Danny, why don't you let me know when you're in my area and I'll just kick your ass and get it over with?  Dude, seriously, you are just an a-hole and it seems like you have enough battles on your hands already.  Go to a meeting or something, man.  You dry-drunks can be really annoying.

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Dude I'm in your area right now and right up your ass, feel me.
Get a life and move on, those battles your seeing I don't, it's perspective
my friend, just like your view/opinion of Whooter, quit fucking with the man
and move on, asshole.
Dude really I'm in your area my number is posted, please call me.
Love your AA lingo...very sweet of you.
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