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Dan "The Publisher" Bostdorf
Anonymous:
Matt, do you know this guy's story?
I have thought of contacting him, myself, though I was not actually a resident of Elan.
Okay, so what I gather so far is this...
His wife wrote a book, about Elan, and he was once the gardener for Joe Ricci?
Why is he called "The Publisher"?
Did he publish the book that his wife, or something?
Do you have any idea what his motive is for getting involved in all of this..
As far, as people's suspicions towards him, I too get a sense that there is something fishy with this guy. (I'm not sure what however)
For example, Syn asks him questions, and he responds that he should read his book. Now, I gotta say that from Syn's perspective, it's not suprising that he would have the suspicions that he does...
I mean, why not just answer the question..
Is there some code that he wants us to crack in this book or something?
.. and for me, there were a few things, that led me to belive also that whatever he may be, he is not entirely what he seems.. I have posted about these things in the past.
Paul St. John
Anonymous:
Paul
Look all of the answers to all of your questions can be found on most of the web sites that pertain to elan . There are 3 of them ,and believe me zaretzky's site ,(if you knew him, and unfortunately I do ) I don't consider to be one of the three.
Therefore I am helping you from wasting your time ,because you have a lot of reading to do ,and really I am not trying to be smart . If any former resident or any one, actually sits down and reads alll the material that has been posted by former residents about elan . you will see liberally sprinkled throughout these three sites threads where Dan Bostdorf has posted.
And my friend Paul, all the questions that you asked ,can be answered in those three sites .
the crux of this biscutt is that a lot of people who start posting on these sites, have a lot of either catching up, or simply some intense reading ,depending on when you got on the bus (started posting on these boards and or reading them )
as for myself I long time ago wrote Dan a short paragraph asking if I might be able to get a copy of the "book" I got the e mail addy from the Martha Moxley site .I don't think I had acess to a computer enough to read the other sites and or knew of them . Dan told me about the Drug Treatment Abuse conference ,the first one ,thats where the healing started understanding exactly what the hell that place was about and why the things that happened there happened .Lots of folks with phd 's etc.
Skakel was a resident in elan ,the noterioty of skakel being connected to the Kennedy family exposed us former residents to elan ,something Paul that some of us had buried for 27 years in some hidden recess of our minds never to see the light of day again all of a sudden as if some one turned on a 1200 watt lamp on that little hidden vault of our minds that held all the freaking memories of what had happened to us and what we had witnessed happen to people we knew .Paul horruendous things ,horrible acts of brutality stuff that I still have a hard time talking about because it is so surreal, came pouring down like Victoria Falls in South Africa
It has taken a while but some of us have recovered enough to where we are not suicidal ,can in fact talk about the stuff we witnessed with out the emotional attachment that came with the flood of those memories .and we are elan's biggest threat . Becaused we survived .
As some one who has survived elan 74-76 and from what I have come to know of Dan ,it is my opinion that he is a very big assett to shutting down elan and helping us put the child abusers away for a very long time (the rest of ther natural lives as far as I am concerned) I could give a hoot about the commercial side of Dan .Good for him if he makes money on a book ,that is his business not mine .
There are some residents who in my opinion are going to get some monies out of elan b4 it does go down ,and good for them they deserve it .
Paul what derivetive of synanon were you in ?
Matt C. Hoffman:
Paul I got bumped off a couple of times I wrote the above reply to your qwery.
SyN:
Matt, whats the problem with asking questions. there maybe a tone here but the guy gets a little personal with his questions and i want to know why. whats the problem with that? Especially when he didn't go to elan himself, and the questions seem more like research, and his answers run in circles. I know Dan has Definetly hooked it up with e-mail adresses to people who might care about our elan stories, but he still seems shady. I would talk i.m with him any time but he seems to just blow that idea off. I'm not the only one who see's this, so i asked about him. Thats all it is. By the way you do have a delete key, your a moderator. Any way Matt i hope Oregon is as beautifull as ever, i cant wait to get back out there.
SyN
Anonymous:
Paul horruendous things ,horrible acts of brutality stuff that I still have a hard time talking about because it is so surreal, came pouring down like Victoria Falls in South Africa
Have you ever seen it?
Victoria Falls in South Africa?
.. was in Daytop.
Hmmmm..
.. a lot of reading..
eh.. bummer! :wink:
Paul
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