Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
Way more kids praise programs than attack them, why is that?
Whooter:
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You are aware you left out other factors/criteria, yes? I am not sure they would make a difference. I worked for programs and can honestly say a rating system would be useless.
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Joel, I just intended the post to be a first pass. I believe much more can be added but I expect if survivors chimed in it would evolve into something meaningful. The rating could help parents that check into fornits to get an idea of how bad the program they are considering really is. If a parent were considering a place like Tranquility Bay they would see that maybe an Aspen Ranch type of place would be a better choice. The way it is now all a parents hears here is all programs are the same, which is no help at all. So they may make a bad choice.
For example, many families believe that kids should read books, entertain themselves with board games and avoid TV all together, because tv viewing, in general, isn’t good for child development. But if they must watch it there is a rating system available to them that helps guide them to make the best possible choice, even though some people maintain that all tv is harmful the system would guide a parent away from an ”R” rated movie for a young child. This way the child is poisoned with a little lower dose.
Joel:
Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
Whooter:
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--- Quote ---If a parent were considering a place like Tranquility Bay they would see that maybe an Aspen Ranch type of place would be a better choice.
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I assume you are aware abuse takes place at Aspen Ranch. Would you send your child there or refer another child there?
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Abuse happens everywhere, Joel. Hospitals, churches, public schools, by drug dealers, by violent boyfriends, by public school teachers, by abusive parents, by underpaid staff, by overpaid staff,...... but some places are a higher risk than others. This is where a rating system would help. I dont think we would ever find a place that is truly 100% safe... but If I were going to place my child I would pick places like ASR, Aspen Ranch etc. and a few other over Tranquility Bay and Hyde (although Hyde just became accredited so they seem to have cleaned up and deserve a second look).
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Joel:
Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
Whooter:
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--- Quote ---Abuse happens everywhere, Joel. Hospitals, churches, public schools, by drug dealers, by violent boyfriends, by public school teachers, by abusive parents, by underpaid staff, by overpaid staff,...... but some places are a higher risk than others. This is where a rating system would help. I dont think we would ever find a place that is truly 100% safe... but If I were going to place my child I would pick places like ASR, Aspen Ranch etc. and a few other over Tranquility Bay and Hyde (although Hyde just became accredited so they seem to have cleaned up and deserve a second look).
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Whooter,
Accreditation is a selling gimmick. Programs receive extra funding upon accreditation. It would be virtually impossible to construct a rating system to ensure the safety of children in programs. I know from first hand experience because I worked for programs. Having said that, it does not make me special. The safety of children is at the top of the totem pole. What boggles my mind is your choice of schools. They have a reputation for abuse and are not safe.
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The rating system would not be constructed to insure the safety of children, like you said this would be impossible. Just like the rating system for the movie industry cannot insure that kids will not be scared or harmed. But they at least do the best they can. The rating system would help to guide parents to make a better decision.
If, through your experience, you feel Tranquility Bay is a safer and less abusive place for a child than ASR or Aspen Ranch then your information would be part of the equation which builds the rating system and this would be passed onto parents who visit Fornits. This wouldn’t have any effect on the programs themselves at least this wouldn’t be the initial intent.
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