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Anonymous:

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--- Quote from: "Psy" ---Right and MBA waved that right by deciding to shut down rather than put up a defense. If they were innocent and these charges were false, why would they do that? Perhaps because DHS only touched the tip of the iceberg and MBA did not want the full details of their LifeSteps becoming public.
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Yeah, it is very reminiscent of what happened with Whitmore and Cheryl Sudweeks.  Carp and bitch that these people are closing  and not copping to guilt overlooks the fact that no innocent person would buckle and enter a plea bargain to such horrible accusations with their livelihood at stake.  Like Cheryl Sudweeks, MBA is cutting their losses so they can still do business elsewhere rather than face public trial, jail and permanent blackballing.  You're full of shit if you believe MBA is doing anything other than dodging the bullet they well deserve.
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Purely a business decision.  If long term profits would benefit if they stayed and fought then they would.  But innocent or guilty it makes more sense to cut the loses now, avoid a public trial and try to reopen somewhere else, maybe under another name.
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Yep, so it's pretty much what the guest you quoted said....this is just like the Sudweeks and Whitmore.

psy:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Another way to help clarify my thoughts:

Lets say that “Big Al’s Daycare and Towing service” ( a local business model that found success because Big Al would pick-up and drop off the kids) was shut down for abuse, due to reports that children were seen playing on the edges of major highways in the area and also were present at the scenes of major car accidents on a daily basis.  After 6 months (and $300,000 in legal costs) Big Al successfully argued that he technically never broke any laws because cars naturally break down all the time and parents place their families on the side of the highway at a safe distance, which was what Big Al does so he isn’t placing the kids at any higher risk than a normal family would.  So all charges were dropped.    

The problem is that people will remember the Name “Big Al” associated with “abuse” and therefore his business will be permanently damaged.  Big Al’s only options would be to drop the Daycare from his business model or move to another state where no one associates his name with abuse.  Or he could transfer the daycare portion to his wife and call it “Big Bertha's Daycare and Septic Cleaning” and try to start anew.

Sometimes it is best to stay and fight and others to just move on.
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"Big Al" could then sue the state for losses.  Why hasn't MBA done this if the claims are false?  Why hasn't MBA, like "Big Al", contested the charges against them in court?  The law not only affords a person a reasonable defense.  It also entitles a person to damages caused by false allegations.  Why isn't MBA pursuing this course if the claims against them are false.  Why not simply release the LifeSteps scripts to the public and show the world what they do if there is nothing to hide?

Also, are you suggesting that MBA is considering simply renaming their facility / transferring ownership and re-opening?

Ursus:

--- Quote from: "psy" ---Why not simply release the LifeSteps scripts to the public and show the world what they do if there is nothing to hide?
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AAAwwwww... then the mesmers of Mount Bachelor might lose some of their super-seekrit magic!!    ;D

psy:

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--- Quote from: "psy" ---Why not simply release the LifeSteps scripts to the public and show the world what they do if there is nothing to hide?
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AAAwwwww... then the mesmers of Mount Bachelor might lose some of their super-seekrit magic!!    ;D
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LOL. Or it would be revealed that it's exact same "magic" that was used by CEDU back in the day.

psy:

--- Quote from: "psy" ---"Big Al" could then sue the state for losses.  Why hasn't MBA done this if the claims are false?  Why hasn't MBA, like "Big Al", contested the charges against them in court?  The law not only affords a person a reasonable defense.  It also entitles a person to damages caused by false allegations.
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Furthermore, you can be damn sure the state was aware of these liabilities when they made their accusations.  You can be damned sure after interviewing those 100 odd kids (iirc) that they had all their i's dotted and t's crossed.  MBA backed down not because they were innocent but because they knew damn well they got caught with their pants down and there's no way to spin away the wealth of evidence.

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