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Aspen - failure again
Anonymous:
^^got to be Whooter again. He's more concerned about getting those links IN, than he is in anything he's actually saying. :rofl:
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Whooter:
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"Sowing goodwill towards the industry." Gotta love that viral marketing. :twofinger:
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That’s an interesting perspective. So any point of view or personal account which goes against the fornits "group think" is considered viral marketing?
This really shows how deceptive fornits has become. Years ago fornits would base their arguments on facts and personal accounts from kids who were in programs (aka survivors). Now since the programs have greatly improved, these same kids are being helped and the industry is growing you need to resort to fictional or out dated accounts because there are very few current stories to use as examples.
There also seems to be a growing intolerance to studies and facts on the industry here on the forum. Prescreening of aticles and books are in high gear. Its amazing how upset people get now if you independently link to something outside fornits. Maybe if you do away with the "Link" option you can better control the content and the message here. You cant call the information and links lies (because it is truthful information) so you try to justify dismissing it by calling it "Industry Goodwill" and "Viral marketing".
The word survivor is taking on a whole new meaning… maybe those kids who survived adolescence.
Troll Control:
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--- Quote from: "Guest" ---This guy also did a book about battered women didnt he. I thought I read that somewhere.
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Perhaps you are referring to this part, quoted from your own post:
David L. Marcus has been a foreign correspondent and education reporter for U.S. News & World Report, the Boston Globe, Miami Herald, and Dallas Morning News, where he shared a Pulitzer Prize for a series of articles on violence against women around the world.[/list]
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Yes! I knew he worked against violence against women.
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Uh, no, not at all. He WROTE ABOUT IT. He did not "work against" it. He exploited its existence for a series of stories. You need a reading comprehension class.
But let's not let that distract from the disturbing 100% failure rate and 25% death rate Marcus uncovered at ASR, an Aspen program.
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Yeah, you can't accept only part of the facts. If you are going to look at these kids' lives, you have to look at the other side of it as well. On one hand ASR claims lots of success, but the only "documentary" about the place (Marcus' book) reveals it's actually a huge failure.
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I believe this thread was about another Aspen failure (one in a long, long line of them) as evidenced by the fattest teen ever becoming fat again after Aspen's b-mod program and four kids from Marcus' book ending up drug addicted and one dead. Aspen's failure rate in the "Marcus sample" is 100% with a 25% death rate. This has nothing to do with group think. Aspen kills kids and there's no way around that.
Whooter:
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--- Quote from: "Guest" ---This guy also did a book about battered women didnt he. I thought I read that somewhere.
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Perhaps you are referring to this part, quoted from your own post:
David L. Marcus has been a foreign correspondent and education reporter for U.S. News & World Report, the Boston Globe, Miami Herald, and Dallas Morning News, where he shared a Pulitzer Prize for a series of articles on violence against women around the world.[/list]
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Yes! I knew he worked against violence against women.
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Uh, no, not at all. He WROTE ABOUT IT. He did not "work against" it. He exploited its existence for a series of stories. You need a reading comprehension class.
But let's not let that distract from the disturbing 100% failure rate and 25% death rate Marcus uncovered at ASR, an Aspen program.
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Yeah, you can't accept only part of the facts. If you are going to look at these kids' lives, you have to look at the other side of it as well. On one hand ASR claims lots of success, but the only "documentary" about the place (Marcus' book) reveals it's actually a huge failure.
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I believe this thread was about another Aspen failure (one in a long, long line of them) as evidenced by the fattest teen ever becoming fat again after Aspen's b-mod program and four kids from Marcus' book ending up drug addicted and one dead. Aspen's failure rate in the "Marcus Sample" is 100% with a 25% death rate. This has nothing to do with group think. Aspen kills kids and there's no way around that.
Check out the details here:
Marcus' Blog
Anonymous:
^^got to be Whooter again. He's more concerned about getting those links IN, than he is in anything he's actually saying. :rofl:
Earn those VM $$$$, baby!
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