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Cop assaults 15-year-old special needs student
Ursus:
LOL... how pathetic. Language I quoted from Guest, whose identity now seems quite obvious, I duly put quotes around.
Nice attempt at obfuscating the obvious, namely that your response to this news piece has been nothing more than a knee-jerk reaction with zero research, and a transparent attempt to smear anyone opposed to unnecessary restraints.
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--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---with a potentially lethal "face-down take-down" restraint (illegal in 4 states due to an unacceptably high mortality rate)
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Which means it is legal in 46 states which translates into 92% of the people agree with this type of restraint.
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Wrong. Again, appalling lack of logic. Absence of one thing does not imply nor translate into its opposite.
Plus, there's a typo on my part. This type of restraint is illegal in eight states, not 4.
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--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---. Was it a second, or a half-second, before the cop attacked him and smashed him into the wall?
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He walked halfway down the hallway. Enough time for the bully to show the rest of the school that he is in charge and if they dont listen to him and show him some respect then they are going to be next and the police dont have the balls or authority to stop him or make the other kids feel safe.
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I didn't see that kid bullying anyone. I saw a cop physically assaulting that kid. From behind. Within a second or two after verbally accosting him. There wasn't even enough time for that kid to tuck his shirt in, before he got slammed into a wall of lockers, and thence onto the floor face down.
Do explain: What do dress code violations have to do with safety concerns?
Ursus:
CBS News
Caught on Tape: Cop Beats Special Needs Student On Camera
October 7, 2009 10:35 AM
Posted by Edecio Martinez
Photo: Security cameras captured the beating of a 15-year-old Special Education student by a police officer.
(CBS 2 Chicago)
DOLTON, Ill. (CBS2) A 15-year-old special education student was walking down a hallway at school when he says a police officer grabbed him and threw him to the ground. The teenager says he was beaten and nearly suffocated and much of it was caught on tape.
The teen told his story to CBS 2 Chicago reporter Dave Savini.
Security cameras captured the beating of Marshawn Pitts, who says the officer started shouting and swearing at him because his shirt wasn't tucked in.
"I was tucking my shirt in," Pitts said.
But it's what happened next that had Marshawn Pitts worried for his life. Pitts says the officer came at him suddenly.
"It was just like boom," Pitts said.
He says he was blindsided by the officer, thrown into lockers and struck repeatedly.
In the video, you can see that he gets slammed to the ground and his face smashed into the floor. His nose was broken. Pitts says he was bleeding.
"All this on the outside of my mouth was busted," he said.
He calls this treatment violent and unnecessary, especially considering he was attending the Academy for Learning High School in Dolton for students like him with Special Education needs.
When he was younger, he suffered a brain injury and now has a learning disability. The school for special needs was supposed to help him and understand his situation.
"Yeah, but instead I got beaten on by police," Pitts said.
The officer in question was a Dolton police officer, and the hold he used on Pitts can be a dangerous one.
"The officer was in his face because he didn't have his shirt tucked in," said Pitts' attorney Ed Manzke. "That's the officer put in that school to protect these kids, and instead of doing that, this officer is literally assaulting this kid."
Zena Naiditch of Equip for Equality, a legal advocacy group that fights for the rights of people with disabilities, looked at the video and said the type of physical restraint used by the officer has killed students.
"It's called a face-down take-down, and kids and adults often die because they can't breathe," Naiditch said.
A Government Accounting Office report released in May, just one day before the officer's use of the hold on Pitts, found face-down take-downs led to at least 20 deaths nationwide.
Currently eight states prohibit the use of this hold. Illinois is not one of them.
"So we don't actually know how common these incidents are, and that's outrageous," Naiditch said.
Pitts says he was terrified and begged the officer to stop.
"I couldn't breathe,'" Pitts said. "I was like, 'let me up.'"
Naiditch says it shouldn't have happened.
"He's getting a beating, and he's getting a beating on an issue that has nothing to do with danger, it has to do with dress code," Naiditch said.
No one from the Academy of Learning in Dolton would talk to the Chicago station about the alleged abuse.
Marshawn Pitts's attorney Ed Manzke says he has transferred to another school and is planning to file a lawsuit. The State Board of Education says no one from the school reported the use of forceful restraint to them.
Story Contributed by CBS 2 Chicago Investigative Reporter, Dave Savini.
Copyright ©2009 CBS Interactive Inc.
Whooter:
--- Quote --- LOL... how pathetic. Language I quoted from Guest, whose identity now seems quite obvious, I duly put quotes around.
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I am sure you know who I am... show me where I said he was a “mean monster”. why do you make this up? There are only like 6 posts here and you are the only one who used those words.
--- Quote ---Plus, there's a typo on my part. This type of restraint is illegal in eight states, not 4
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See I understand this. You can report this as 8 states finding it illegal. But the reality is that 42 states have found this to be legal, which translates into 84% of the people believe it to be acceptable and legal. Why not report the facts?
--- Quote --- I didn't see that kid bullying anyone. I saw a cop physically assaulting that kid. Within a second or two after accosting him. There wasn't even enough time for that kid to tuck his shirt in, before he got slammed into the wall from behind.
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We all know that it takes a nano second to process the information “tuck in your shirt”... you can stop and say no... you can stop and explain that you are late for class.. you can stop and talk.... but this kid took the power position because the other kids were watching him and he wanted to make his point that he was in charge (not the idiot police who cant protect anyone). He wanted to say to the other student watching: " I am in charge and if you want to feel safe then listen to what I tell you".. ( not the police)
Ursus:
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--- Quote --- LOL... how pathetic. Language I quoted from Guest, whose identity now seems quite obvious, I duly put quotes around.
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I am sure you know who I am... show me where I said he was a “mean monster”. why do you make this up? There are only like 6 posts here and you are the only one who used those words.
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What exactly is your problem? I never attributed this language to you. It is called sarcasm!
Why accuse people of things they are not guilty of, unless to draw attention away from facts you find embarrassing. Which might be...?
Again: language directly from you, I put quotation marks around or into a quote box.
The rest of your post is not even worth responding to. Better luck next time! :D
Whooter:
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--- Quote --- LOL... how pathetic. Language I quoted from Guest, whose identity now seems quite obvious, I duly put quotes around.
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I am sure you know who I am... show me where I said he was a “mean monster”. why do you make this up? There are only like 6 posts here and you are the only one who used those words.
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What exactly is your problem? I never attributed this language to you. It is called sarcasm!
Why accuse people of things they are not guilty of, unless to draw attention away from facts you find embarrassing. Which might be...?
Again: language directly from you, I put quotation marks around or into a quote box.
The rest of your post is not even worth responding to. Better luck next time! :D
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Exactly, so using "Mean Monster" (as sarcasm) is assuming the kid was walking innocently to class (I didnt read that)... It could have easily been (and most likely) a power play in front of the school to show who is boss..i.e. listen to me because the cops have no power here.... they have no power over me, but I have power over you and when they are off duty I will own your asses.
Of course when he is face down he is going to be subservant and asking to be let up and cry out... even "Son of Sam" started to whimper when he was cuffed, every one does...its a natural reaction when you are totally held down without control. It doesnt reveal or determine innocence or guilt.
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