Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
Ellen Behren's Industry Study Funded by AEG
Pile of Dead Kids:
In other words, you're throwing out quotes from a bogus source, because it's all you have.
Troll Control:
This GEM belongs over here in this thread...
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Anyone who has great study results on their product would be crazy not to leverage the information and get it out there. I cant think of one study which wouldn't.
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And thusly you have proven my point.
Phase two of Behrens was completed in 2007 and never published or presented anywhere. Therefore, either Aspen marketing is crazy, or they have a study with bad results.
They ain't crazy. They have a study that they'd be crazy to release.
Finally the truth comes to the surface of all of your BS spam-trolling.
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:cheers: :jamin: :rocker:
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---This GEM belongs over here in this thread...
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Anyone who has great study results on their product would be crazy not to leverage the information and get it out there. I cant think of one study which wouldn't.
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And thusly you have proven my point.
Phase two of Behrens was completed in 2007 and never published or presented anywhere. Therefore, either Aspen marketing is crazy, or they have a study with bad results.
They ain't crazy. They have a study that they'd be crazy to release.
Finally the truth comes to the surface of all of your BS spam-trolling.
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:cheers: :jamin: :rocker:
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Well, cant say I agree with you, you need to consider who they are trying to get to read the study. They presented it to the professional community and now they are presenting it to the people who will benefit most from it.. parents with troubled kids. I never referred to journals when I was considering placement. If publishing it in journals would benefit them then I am sure they would do it. If they felt it wasnt any good then they would not have it on their web sites or have presented it at the APA Convention.
I think you need to step back and look at what is in everyone's best interest. Always remember who the customer is and who is buying.
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Troll Control:
Then why isn't it posted on their marketing sites, like phase one? You've sunk yourself logically on this one, buddy.
If they had any evidence whatsoever that would solidify their claims they'd be posting that shit in men's rooms at bus stations.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Then why isn't it posted on their marketing sites, like phase one? You've sunk yourself logically on this one, buddy.
If they had any evidence whatsoever that would solidify their claims they'd be posting that shit in men's rooms at bus stations.
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I am just talking about Phase I....
If you saw the amount of marketing they did for new drugs towards doctors vs towards the people who will use it you would be surprised. They have sales people standing at the doctors office door to pedal their new drug. Doctors read scientific journals so they advertise in them also.
If programs were required to get a referral from a licensed therapist prior to accepting a child do you think Aspen would be only advertising on the internet and on brochures and edcons? They would be advertising in Psychology today and spending a fortune getting their studies into every journal that sits in front of a shrink.
You need to leverage the studies where they will bring the biggest bang for your buck.
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