Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
Ellen Behren's Industry Study Funded by AEG
Whooter:
If there is a conflict what I like to do is go back to the original quote:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Whooter also keeps saying "up to 80%" success, but that is not concluded by Behrens, it's concluded by other researchers using longitudinal clinical studies of residential treatment and has nothing whatsoever to do with Aspen programs or Behrens.
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So just to clear it up…..other researchers conclude up to 80% success using longitudinal Clinical studies of residential Treatment.
The Behrens study was presented to the APA professional community we cannot change the facts. If you feel it has been rejected in any way feel free to post the link. But until that time the study stands as is, I will note that you feel personally that the study should be published.
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Troll Control:
Original quote? You have posted hundreds of times claiming "80% success" based on Behrens, which is a blatant lie. You have been lying about the results for years with no disclaimer or clarification. The "success rate" you keep citing has nothing to do with programs at all and it proves traditional treatment is much, much more effective than even this dopey survey by Aspen marketing claims.
Whooter:
Well maybe I was wrong then, DJ......lets take a look at what you said:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Whooter also keeps saying "up to 80%" success, but that is not concluded by Behrens, it's concluded by other researchers using longitudinal clinical studies of residential treatment and has nothing whatsoever to do with Aspen programs or Behrens.
--- End quote ---
So just to clear it up…..other researchers conclude up to 80% success using longitudinal Clinical studies of residential Treatment.
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Troll Control:
Yes, traditional residential treatment not including Aspen or any other programs. 30 to 90 day stays are up to 80% effective. Programs run up to 2 years, cost fifty times more and are not nearly as effective based on one biased survey by Aspen marketing.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Yes, traditional residential treatment not including Aspen or any other programs. 30 to 90 day stays are up to 80% effective. Programs run up to 2 years, cost fifty times more and are not nearly as effective based on one biased survey by Aspen marketing.
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Hmmm. I didnt see "Traditional"... nor "30-90 days".. nor was cost included as a differential. Seems you are trying to change things here. Its always good to go back to the quote we are talking about, Lets take another look:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Whooter also keeps saying "up to 80%" success, but that is not concluded by Behrens, it's concluded by other researchers using longitudinal clinical studies of residential treatment and has nothing whatsoever to do with Aspen programs or Behrens.
--- End quote ---
So just to clear it up…..other researchers conclude up to 80% success using longitudinal Clinical studies of residential Treatment.
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