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Ellen Behren's Industry Study Funded by AEG

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Ursus:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Interesting Tidbit from the study:

An important secondary finding is that very few adolescents decline in functioning over the course of treatment. This finding is significant when considered in light of research that has raised the possibility that group-based adolescent treatment can lead to deterioration, in certain instances. Specifically, some research has found that association with deviant peers in therapy may increase problematic behaviors, such as externalizing behavior and substance use (Dishion, McCord, & Poulin, 1999)
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Of course, Aspen Ed wants to try to discredit the findings of Dishion, McCord, & Poulin... given that their research showed the negative affects that Guided Group Interaction ultimately had on certain participants. And GGI and its variants is pretty much what this whole industry is based on.

Problem is, Behrens cherry-picked her sample so overtly, it's impossible to ignore the shallowness of her data. So, I'm afraid I don't find her finding so significant, whatever light she asks us to consider it in!  :D

Troll Control:
Declined in functioning compared to what, anyway?  There's no control group.

DannyB II:

--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Well, not quite.  

I also find it deeply disturbing that Mount Bachelor Academy was one of the Aspen facilities included in this study.  I wonder how it could be concluded that this program helps kids when it was forcibly closed for child abuse?  I think that taints the researcher, the methods and the conclusions.  

This is one reason why this study has never been submited for peer review, in my opinion.  It's a fairly devastating indictment of one's research methods when the research concludes that MBA is effective at helping children when the fact is that it was closed for abusing children.
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Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Interesting Tidbit from the study:

An important secondary finding is that very few adolescents decline in functioning over the course of treatment. This finding is significant when considered in light of research that has raised the possibility that group-based adolescent treatment can lead to deterioration, in certain instances. Specifically, some research has found that association with deviant peers in therapy may increase problematic behaviors, such as externalizing behavior and substance use (Dishion, McCord, & Poulin, 1999)
--- End quote ---
Of course, Aspen Ed wants to try to discredit the findings of Dishion, McCord, & Poulin... given that their research showed the negative affects that Guided Group Interaction ultimately had on certain participants. And GGI and its variants is pretty much what this whole industry is based on.

Problem is, Behrens cherry-picked her sample so overtly, it's impossible to ignore the shallowness of her data. So, I'm afraid I don't find her finding so significant, whatever light she asks us to consider it in!  :D
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One of the great things about living in this country is the freedom to believe what we want.  They have been putting out studies for decades, on the effects of tobacco and a large segment of our population still dont believe the findings and will argue tooth and nail against them  (like many here do) and tobacco is still made available to them because it is their choice.  Its a natural occurrence.



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Ursus:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Interesting Tidbit from the study:

An important secondary finding is that very few adolescents decline in functioning over the course of treatment. This finding is significant when considered in light of research that has raised the possibility that group-based adolescent treatment can lead to deterioration, in certain instances. Specifically, some research has found that association with deviant peers in therapy may increase problematic behaviors, such as externalizing behavior and substance use (Dishion, McCord, & Poulin, 1999)
--- End quote ---
Of course, Aspen Ed wants to try to discredit the findings of Dishion, McCord, & Poulin... given that their research showed the negative affects that Guided Group Interaction ultimately had on certain participants. And GGI and its variants is pretty much what this whole industry is based on.

Problem is, Behrens cherry-picked her sample so overtly, it's impossible to ignore the shallowness of her data. So, I'm afraid I don't find her finding so significant, whatever light she asks us to consider it in!  :D
--- End quote ---
One of the great things about living in this country is the freedom to believe what we want.  They have been putting out studies for decades, on the effects of tobacco and a large segment of our population still dont believe the findings and will argue tooth and nail against them  (like many here do) and tobacco is still made available to them because it is their choice.  Its a natural occurrence.
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In a democratic society, psychological coercion and propaganda take the place of more overt and physically brutal means of controlling and exploiting others.

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