ME:
Did you do the ropes course?
XXXXXXXX:
yes I did
ME:
can you describe how that worked?
XXXXXXXX:
yeah
They had us get in a line silently. They picked their favorites first. Then if we got scared or said we were done. They would say we had to do more or it was regroup.
Then if you didn't cheer the others on. You would get on regroup and you could not leave the area
ME:
So you didn't have a choice about doing the ropes course, it was do it or get in trouble?
XXXXXXX:
Yes
ME:
What kind of regroups did you have to do?
XXXXXX:
I had to pick up hole punched dots on the ground and move them from cup to cup. With out stopping
I had to clean bathroom without gloves
dust fake plants
umm...pick up crumbs off the floor with my hands
scrub the floor with a toothbrush
scrub the floor
with a rag
ME:
this was for Ropes course?
XXXXXXXX:
umm well regroup was the same no matter what you did
ME:
Did regroup feel like a chance to reflect on the problem or did it feel like something else?
XXXXXX:
felt like a punishment Couldn't talk
couldn't even ask for the bathroom
They would tell you when you could go
to the bathroom
ME:
What did you do if you had to use the bathroom?
XXXXXXX:
You waited until they told you that you could go
ME:
you ever experience any pain or discomfort for having to wait for permission to use the bathroom?
XXXXXXX:
umm yes
ME:
and did you ever try to ask to go even though you knew you weren't supposed to?
XXXXXXXX:
Yes and I got rrestrained
ME:
For asking to use the bathroom, you got restrained?
XXXXXXX:
yes they did not like me questioning authority
ME:
Did you try to hurt yourself, hurt anyone else before this restraint?
XXXXXXXX:
no
well for other things
but not this
ME:
Ok.. so back to ropes course..
XXXXXXX:
okay
ME:
Did you have to complete ropes course to advance in CALO's program?
XXXXXXX:
yes
ME:
So it wasn't voluntary, you couldn't choose not to do it, and if you didn't do it you couldn't advance?
XXXXXXX:
yes
ME:
And if you got scared and stopped you'd get punished with a regroup?
XXXXXXX:
yes
ME:
Did anyone ever get restrained at the Ropes Course?
XXXXXXXX:
yes
ME:
Were they trying to hurt themselves or anyone else?
XXXXXXXX:
nope not all of the time
ME:
Do you think you got anything out of CALO's ropes course?
XXXXXXXX:
Nah not really
ME:
Did you see Ken Huey ever restrain a resident?
XXXXXXX:
a few
ME:
So a few people?
XXXXXX:
yes
ME:
Were they trying to hurt themselves or another?
XXXXXXX:
yes
ME:
Were they ever not trying to hurt themselves or another?
XXXXXXXX:
yes
ME:
And you saw Ken Huey try to restrain them?
XXXXXXX:
yes
he usually took over a restraint
for another staff
ME:
Did these restraints appear to be painful?
XXXXXX:
yes
most staff restrained kids painfully
ME:
Did the people being restrained ever beg staff to stop?
XXXXXXX:
yes
ME:
How did the staff respond?
XXXXXX:
they would either yell, cuss
or put them on regroup
rarely did they let them go
unless authority gave approval
ME:
Ok.. that's all I have time for now, do you mind if I edit this intertiew for grammar, spelling, and to protect your identity?
XXXXXXXX:
Yes
ME:
Do you give me permission to post this interview, in editted form, on a public forum on the internet?
XXXXXXXXX:
yes if NO ONE knows its me
ME:
Your name will never be uttered from my lips or fingertips.
thanks, I'll get this fixed up and posted. You've been a great help.
XXXXXXXXX:
okay thank you
sure thing
thanks
ME:
bye!
XXXXXXX:
bye
the...
FUCKING...
And that shit is happening right now to kids who have been identified.
I don't mean to impinge on Proxied's turf here but YOU HAVE THE KIDS' NAMES, HELP FIND THE FUCKING PARENTS!!!
[Redacted due to DMCA claim] Sabonis-Helf mother's name seems to be Theresa Sabonis-Helf. If this is the correct Sabonis-Helf, her contact info is or was:
+1 3014080995
8001 Glenside Dr, 20912, Takoma Park
I'm not even sure if they'd let me print this shit out at the library. Anyone with a printer at home mind snail mailing this shit? Fold it neatly and put a big fat flag stamp on it.
Those parents, and I use the term fucking LOOSELY, I hope to God your own kids sue you into oblivion for this. This is some royally sick shit. Look at this! Just read it! I know you don't give a damn about your kids but pretend it's YOU! Ken Huey, the idea that you would do ANYTHING to "protect the kids" is a fucking JOKE.
This is not therapy. This is not "treatment". This isn't even infantilist pedophilia as Proxied would have it. This is just FUCKING PSYCHOTIC SHIT.
Where the FUCK is what passes for Missouri's child services?
So, I guess nothing can be done about this kid’s victimization by Ken Huey and CALO? We must add CALO to the long list of gulags that can imprison and torture without mercy and without consequence?
I keep hearing talk of “evidence” and “plan of prosecution.” Fem, level with me, is this just a pipe dream, like our pipe dreams of justice against the WWASP, and provo canyon monsters (one of whom is Ken Huey, actually)?
