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Whooter:
Interesting, So no one can provide any links at all? Does anyone know if this woman is working for Aspen? Besides the cafety and fornits links?

@ RMA, People doing testing and clinical trials have roots in the field they are testing. They need to so that they gain knowledge of the industry. It is only natural because this is their area of interest. Running clinical trials and testing for the drug companies dont require that you have employees who have never worked within the drug industry. A background is actually prefered. But if this is your criteria for acceptance I dont see having anything in the near future which will meet it.

Anonymous:
Interesting..you’re dumber than a box of hair and your son is dead.

The info provided came from the people who killed your son, Aspen Education Group. Their employees admit their connection to aspen. Also, it came from cafety, and the GAO

The quote below comes from the government of accountability office. It connects Ellen and canyon ranch to aspen education, and lists her "survey" as an example of deceptive marketing

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "Hon. George Miller, Chairman,Committee on Education and Labor, Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC." Goverment Accountability Hearing on abuse in residential teen programs" ---
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-110hh ... 041839.htm
Regarding deceptive marketing practices in general, I can provide
documentation that many of the so-called independent studies published,
touting the effectiveness of the programs, were indeed conducted by
people who formerly had or still have direct connections to programs. [/b][/u]
One such study was prepared by Ellen Behrens and staff at ``Evidence
Based Consulting''. She was formerly the director of Aspen's Youth Care
facility where Brandon Blum died recently due to medical neglect.
Partners Smoot and Fenstermacher have connections with Aspen and other
programs. Jan Moss of NATSAP then attempted to apply that study to the
entire industry when it only included 9 Aspen programs. To my knowledge
there hasn't been one genuinely independent, third-party study
conducted to date.
--- End quote ---

--- End quote ---

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-110hh ... 041839.htm

House Hearing, 110 Congress]
[From the U.S. Government Printing Office]

CHILD ABUSE AND DECEPTIVE MARKETING
BY RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS FOR TEENS

=======================================================================

HEARING

before the

COMMITTEE ON
EDUCATION AND LABOR

U.S. House of Representatives

ONE HUNDRED TENTH CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

__________

HEARING HELD IN WASHINGTON, DC, APRIL 24, 2008

__________

Serial No. 110-89

__________

Printed for the use of the Committee on Education and Labor

Available on the Internet:
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/congress/house ... index.html

______

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
41-839 PDF WASHINGTON DC: 2008
---------------------------------------------------------------------
For Sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office
Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512-1800; (202) 512ï¿½091800
Fax: (202) 512ï¿½092104 Mail: Stop IDCC, Washington, DC 20402ï¿½090001

COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR

GEORGE MILLER, California, Chairman

Dale E. Kildee, Michigan, Vice Howard P. ``Buck'' McKeon,
Chairman California,
Donald M. Payne, New Jersey Senior Republican Member
Robert E. Andrews, New Jersey Thomas E. Petri, Wisconsin
Robert C. ``Bobby'' Scott, Virginia Peter Hoekstra, Michigan
Lynn C. Woolsey, California Michael N. Castle, Delaware
Ruben Hinojosa, Texas Mark E. Souder, Indiana
Carolyn McCarthy, New York Vernon J. Ehlers, Michigan
John F. Tierney, Massachusetts Judy Biggert, Illinois
Dennis J. Kucinich, Ohio Todd Russell Platts, Pennsylvania
David Wu, Oregon Ric Keller, Florida
Rush D. Holt, New Jersey Joe Wilson, South Carolina
Susan A. Davis, California John Kline, Minnesota
Danny K. Davis, Illinois Cathy McMorris Rodgers, Washington
Raul M. Grijalva, Arizona Kenny Marchant, Texas
Timothy H. Bishop, New York Tom Price, Georgia
Linda T. Sanchez, California Luis G. Fortuno, Puerto Rico
John P. Sarbanes, Maryland Charles W. Boustany, Jr.,
Joe Sestak, Pennsylvania Louisiana
David Loebsack, Iowa Virginia Foxx, North Carolina
Mazie Hirono, Hawaii John R. ``Randy'' Kuhl, Jr., New
Jason Altmire, Pennsylvania York
John A. Yarmuth, Kentucky Rob Bishop, Utah
Phil Hare, Illinois David Davis, Tennessee
Yvette D. Clarke, New York Timothy Walberg, Michigan
Joe Courtney, Connecticut [Vacancy]
Carol Shea-Porter, New Hampshire

Mark Zuckerman, Staff Director
Sally Stroup, Republican Staff Director

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Interesting..you’re dumber than a box of hair and your son is dead.

The info provided came from the people who killed your son, Aspen Education Group. Their employees admit their connection to aspen. Also, it came from cafety, and the GAO

The quote below comes from the government of accountability office. It connects Ellen and canyon ranch to aspen education, and lists her "survey" as an example of deceptive marketing

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "Hon. George Miller, Chairman,Committee on Education and Labor, Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC." Goverment Accountability Hearing on abuse in residential teen programs" ---
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-110hh ... 041839.htm
Regarding deceptive marketing practices in general, I can provide
documentation that many of the so-called independent studies published,
touting the effectiveness of the programs, were indeed conducted by
people who formerly had or still have direct connections to programs. [/b][/u]
One such study was prepared by Ellen Behrens and staff at ``Evidence
Based Consulting''. She was formerly the director of Aspen's Youth Care
facility where Brandon Blum died recently due to medical neglect.
Partners Smoot and Fenstermacher have connections with Aspen and other
programs. Jan Moss of NATSAP then attempted to apply that study to the
entire industry when it only included 9 Aspen programs. To my knowledge
there hasn't been one genuinely independent, third-party study
conducted to date.
--- End quote ---

--- End quote ---

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-110hh ... 041839.htm

House Hearing, 110 Congress]
[From the U.S. Government Printing Office]

CHILD ABUSE AND DECEPTIVE MARKETING
BY RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS FOR TEENS

=======================================================================

HEARING

before the

COMMITTEE ON
EDUCATION AND LABOR

U.S. House of Representatives

ONE HUNDRED TENTH CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

__________

HEARING HELD IN WASHINGTON, DC, APRIL 24, 2008

__________

Serial No. 110-89

__________

Printed for the use of the Committee on Education and Labor

Available on the Internet:
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/congress/house ... index.html

______

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
41-839 PDF WASHINGTON DC: 2008
---------------------------------------------------------------------
For Sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office
Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512-1800; (202) 512ï¿½091800
Fax: (202) 512ï¿½092104 Mail: Stop IDCC, Washington, DC 20402ï¿½090001

COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR

GEORGE MILLER, California, Chairman

Dale E. Kildee, Michigan, Vice Howard P. ``Buck'' McKeon,
Chairman California,
Donald M. Payne, New Jersey Senior Republican Member
Robert E. Andrews, New Jersey Thomas E. Petri, Wisconsin
Robert C. ``Bobby'' Scott, Virginia Peter Hoekstra, Michigan
Lynn C. Woolsey, California Michael N. Castle, Delaware
Ruben Hinojosa, Texas Mark E. Souder, Indiana
Carolyn McCarthy, New York Vernon J. Ehlers, Michigan
John F. Tierney, Massachusetts Judy Biggert, Illinois
Dennis J. Kucinich, Ohio Todd Russell Platts, Pennsylvania
David Wu, Oregon Ric Keller, Florida
Rush D. Holt, New Jersey Joe Wilson, South Carolina
Susan A. Davis, California John Kline, Minnesota
Danny K. Davis, Illinois Cathy McMorris Rodgers, Washington
Raul M. Grijalva, Arizona Kenny Marchant, Texas
Timothy H. Bishop, New York Tom Price, Georgia
Linda T. Sanchez, California Luis G. Fortuno, Puerto Rico
John P. Sarbanes, Maryland Charles W. Boustany, Jr.,
Joe Sestak, Pennsylvania Louisiana
David Loebsack, Iowa Virginia Foxx, North Carolina
Mazie Hirono, Hawaii John R. ``Randy'' Kuhl, Jr., New
Jason Altmire, Pennsylvania York
John A. Yarmuth, Kentucky Rob Bishop, Utah
Phil Hare, Illinois David Davis, Tennessee
Yvette D. Clarke, New York Timothy Walberg, Michigan
Joe Courtney, Connecticut [Vacancy]
Carol Shea-Porter, New Hampshire

Mark Zuckerman, Staff Director
Sally Stroup, Republican Staff Director
--- End quote ---

I hate to inform you that Deborah from Fornits (Plano, Texas) wrote that letter (use to be an admin here.. would change facts in peoples posts to meet her immediate needs) remember her... go back to your source and scroll down to the bottom of the letter... sorry buddy... ask psy or Ginger is you doubt who it is.... now who is the dumb one?

Okay like I said any link that isnt related to fornits or cafety? Something preferably from Aspen... But even if there was one (just for shits and giggles) that would not damage the results. All testing is done preferably by people who have experience within the industry they are testing... so I still done see the problem.

Troll Control:
http://http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-110hhrg11041839/html/CHRG-110hhrg11041839.htm

Sorry, Deborah happens to be exactly right. Link above corroborates her assertion and proves Whooter completely wrong. Wiggle, wiggle. Squirm, squirm. Can't change the facts, Whooter. Behrens was an Aspen employee. Too bad for you. You've no credibility left. :rofl:

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Interesting..you’re dumber than a box of hair and your son is dead.

--- End quote ---

WHooooo....cold blooded! I can tell from your post below and the spelling mistakes you're hacked off now.

--- Quote from: "John D. Reuben" ---... so I still done see the problem.
--- End quote ---

That's easy for you to say, buddy. Your hatred for Deborah is legendary, she revealed you to be a twat. The only thing she did to your posts was identify your anonymous trolling discussions with yourself and you cried like a bitch. Yes you did, John, you cried like a little bitch.

That's confrontational therapy, John D. Reuben, and we're as qualified to do it as any Aspen "school", you pig bastard. Deal with it. Get over yourself and move on.

Rueben, no one said Behren worked for Aspen. She does profit from the industry. Lon Woodbury isn't associated with any one program and that ass clown makes a living off the TTI. He's sort of a pimp. So are you, Reu-who.

Okay, now that Aspen has verified they do not provide treatment and are not a covered entity as far as HIPAA is concerned, Aspen can't hide behind patient confidentiality or put up any fuss about kids wanting their records...and yet they still do.

Damn. Aspen is ripe for a takedown. They are legally exposed.

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