Aspen Education Group deceptively markets short term invalid

[Whooter]

Interesting, So no one can provide any links at all?  Does anyone know if this woman is working for Aspen?  Besides the cafety and fornits links?

@ RMA,   People doing testing and clinical trials have roots in the field they are testing.  They need to so that they gain knowledge of the industry.  It is only natural because this is their area of interest.  Running clinical trials and testing for the drug companies dont require that you have employees who have never worked within the drug industry.  A background is actually prefered.  But if this is your criteria for acceptance I dont see having anything in the near future which will meet it.

[Anonymous]

Interesting..you’re dumber than a box of hair and your son is dead.

The info provided came from the people who killed your son, Aspen Education Group. Their employees admit their connection to aspen. Also, it came from cafety, and the GAO


The quote below comes from the government of accountability office. It connects Ellen and canyon ranch to aspen education, and lists her "survey" as an example of deceptive marketing

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-110hh ... 041839.htm
Regarding deceptive marketing practices in general, I can provide
documentation that many of the so-called independent studies published,
touting the effectiveness of the programs, were indeed conducted by
people who formerly had or still have direct connections to programs. [/b][/u]
One such study was prepared by Ellen Behrens and staff at ``Evidence
Based Consulting''. She was formerly the director of Aspen's Youth Care
facility where Brandon Blum died recently due to medical neglect.
Partners Smoot and Fenstermacher have connections with Aspen and other
programs. Jan Moss of NATSAP then attempted to apply that study to the
entire industry when it only included 9 Aspen programs. To my knowledge
there hasn't been one genuinely independent, third-party study
conducted to date.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-110hh ... 041839.htm



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                  GEORGE MILLER, California, Chairman

Dale E. Kildee, Michigan, Vice       Howard P. ``Buck'' McKeon,
    Chairman                             California,
Donald M. Payne, New Jersey            Senior Republican Member
Robert E. Andrews, New Jersey        Thomas E. Petri, Wisconsin
Robert C. ``Bobby'' Scott, Virginia  Peter Hoekstra, Michigan
Lynn C. Woolsey, California          Michael N. Castle, Delaware
Ruben Hinojosa, Texas                Mark E. Souder, Indiana
Carolyn McCarthy, New York           Vernon J. Ehlers, Michigan
John F. Tierney, Massachusetts       Judy Biggert, Illinois
Dennis J. Kucinich, Ohio             Todd Russell Platts, Pennsylvania
David Wu, Oregon                     Ric Keller, Florida
Rush D. Holt, New Jersey             Joe Wilson, South Carolina
Susan A. Davis, California           John Kline, Minnesota
Danny K. Davis, Illinois             Cathy McMorris Rodgers, Washington
Raul M. Grijalva, Arizona            Kenny Marchant, Texas
Timothy H. Bishop, New York          Tom Price, Georgia
Linda T. Sanchez, California         Luis G. Fortuno, Puerto Rico
John P. Sarbanes, Maryland           Charles W. Boustany, Jr.,
Joe Sestak, Pennsylvania                 Louisiana
David Loebsack, Iowa                 Virginia Foxx, North Carolina
Mazie Hirono, Hawaii                 John R. ``Randy'' Kuhl, Jr., New
Jason Altmire, Pennsylvania              York
John A. Yarmuth, Kentucky            Rob Bishop, Utah
Phil Hare, Illinois                  David Davis, Tennessee
Yvette D. Clarke, New York           Timothy Walberg, Michigan
Joe Courtney, Connecticut            [Vacancy]
Carol Shea-Porter, New Hampshire

                     Mark Zuckerman, Staff Director
                Sally Stroup, Republican Staff Director

[Whooter]

Interesting..you’re dumber than a box of hair and your son is dead.

The info provided came from the people who killed your son, Aspen Education Group. Their employees admit their connection to aspen. Also, it came from cafety, and the GAO


The quote below comes from the government of accountability office. It connects Ellen and canyon ranch to aspen education, and lists her "survey" as an example of deceptive marketing

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-110hh ... 041839.htm
Regarding deceptive marketing practices in general, I can provide
documentation that many of the so-called independent studies published,
touting the effectiveness of the programs, were indeed conducted by
people who formerly had or still have direct connections to programs. [/b][/u]
One such study was prepared by Ellen Behrens and staff at ``Evidence
Based Consulting''. She was formerly the director of Aspen's Youth Care
facility where Brandon Blum died recently due to medical neglect.
Partners Smoot and Fenstermacher have connections with Aspen and other
programs. Jan Moss of NATSAP then attempted to apply that study to the
entire industry when it only included 9 Aspen programs. To my knowledge
there hasn't been one genuinely independent, third-party study
conducted to date.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-110hh ... 041839.htm



House Hearing, 110 Congress]
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                  CHILD ABUSE AND DECEPTIVE MARKETING
                   BY RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS FOR TEENS

=======================================================================

                                HEARING

                               before the

                              COMMITTEE ON
                          EDUCATION AND LABOR

                     U.S. House of Representatives

                       ONE HUNDRED TENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

                               __________

             HEARING HELD IN WASHINGTON, DC, APRIL 24, 2008

                               __________

                           Serial No. 110-89

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                    COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR

                  GEORGE MILLER, California, Chairman

Dale E. Kildee, Michigan, Vice       Howard P. ``Buck'' McKeon,
    Chairman                             California,
Donald M. Payne, New Jersey            Senior Republican Member
Robert E. Andrews, New Jersey        Thomas E. Petri, Wisconsin
Robert C. ``Bobby'' Scott, Virginia  Peter Hoekstra, Michigan
Lynn C. Woolsey, California          Michael N. Castle, Delaware
Ruben Hinojosa, Texas                Mark E. Souder, Indiana
Carolyn McCarthy, New York           Vernon J. Ehlers, Michigan
John F. Tierney, Massachusetts       Judy Biggert, Illinois
Dennis J. Kucinich, Ohio             Todd Russell Platts, Pennsylvania
David Wu, Oregon                     Ric Keller, Florida
Rush D. Holt, New Jersey             Joe Wilson, South Carolina
Susan A. Davis, California           John Kline, Minnesota
Danny K. Davis, Illinois             Cathy McMorris Rodgers, Washington
Raul M. Grijalva, Arizona            Kenny Marchant, Texas
Timothy H. Bishop, New York          Tom Price, Georgia
Linda T. Sanchez, California         Luis G. Fortuno, Puerto Rico
John P. Sarbanes, Maryland           Charles W. Boustany, Jr.,
Joe Sestak, Pennsylvania                 Louisiana
David Loebsack, Iowa                 Virginia Foxx, North Carolina
Mazie Hirono, Hawaii                 John R. ``Randy'' Kuhl, Jr., New
Jason Altmire, Pennsylvania              York
John A. Yarmuth, Kentucky            Rob Bishop, Utah
Phil Hare, Illinois                  David Davis, Tennessee
Yvette D. Clarke, New York           Timothy Walberg, Michigan
Joe Courtney, Connecticut            [Vacancy]
Carol Shea-Porter, New Hampshire

                     Mark Zuckerman, Staff Director
                Sally Stroup, Republican Staff Director

I hate to inform you that Deborah from Fornits (Plano, Texas) wrote that letter (use to be an admin here.. would change facts in peoples posts to meet her immediate needs)  remember her...  go back to your source and scroll down to the bottom of the letter... sorry buddy... ask psy or Ginger is you doubt who it is.... now who is the dumb one?

Okay like I said any link that isnt related to fornits or cafety? Something preferably from Aspen... But even if there was one (just for shits and giggles) that would not damage the results.  All testing is done preferably by people who have experience within the industry they are testing... so I still done see the problem.

[Troll Control]

http://http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-110hhrg11041839/html/CHRG-110hhrg11041839.htm

Sorry, Deborah happens to be exactly right.  Link above corroborates her assertion and proves Whooter completely wrong.  Wiggle, wiggle.  Squirm, squirm.  Can't change the facts, Whooter.  Behrens was an Aspen employee.  Too bad for you.  You've no credibility left.   :rofl:

[Anonymous]

Interesting..you’re dumber than a box of hair and your son is dead.

WHooooo....cold blooded!  I can tell from your post below and the spelling mistakes you're hacked off now.

... so I still done see the problem.

That's easy for you to say, buddy.  Your hatred for Deborah is legendary, she revealed you to be a twat.  The only thing she did to your posts was identify your anonymous trolling discussions with yourself and you cried like a bitch.  Yes you did, John, you cried like a little bitch.  

That's confrontational therapy, John D. Reuben, and we're as qualified to do it as any Aspen "school", you pig bastard.  Deal with it.  Get over yourself and move on.

Rueben, no one said Behren worked for Aspen.  She does profit from the industry.  Lon Woodbury isn't associated with any one program and that ass clown makes a living off the TTI.  He's sort of a pimp.  So are you, Reu-who.

Okay, now that Aspen has verified they do not provide treatment and are not a covered entity as far as HIPAA is concerned, Aspen can't hide behind patient confidentiality or put up any fuss about kids wanting their records...and yet they still do.

Damn.  Aspen is ripe for a takedown.  They are legally exposed.

[Anonymous]

http://http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-110hhrg11041839/html/CHRG-110hhrg11041839.htm

Sorry, Deborah happens to be exactly right.  Link above corroborates her assertion and proves Whooter completely wrong.  Wiggle, wiggle.  Squirm, squirm.  Can't change the facts, Whooter.  Behrens was an Aspen employee.  Too bad for you.  You've no credibility left.   :rofl:

AHA-HA-HA-HA!

Oh wait.  Ha, ha, ha would be more appropriate.  Reading over Reuben's STICC site it's obvious he wants to be Sue Scheff, another failure of a parent who put all of her kids in programs (after beating up her daughter).

[RMA Survivor]

Rueben, no one said Behren worked for Aspen.  She does profit from the industry.  Lon Woodbury isn't associated with any one program and that ass clown makes a living off the TTI.  He's sort of a pimp.  So are you, Reu-who.

Okay, now that Aspen has verified they do not provide treatment and are not a covered entity as far as HIPAA is concerned, Aspen can't hide behind patient confidentiality or put up any fuss about kids wanting their records...and yet they still do.

Damn.  Aspen is ripe for a takedown.  They are legally exposed.[/quote}

Actually, when I was at RMA in 1984, Lon Woodbury was on campus every day and had his office there.  He clearly worked for the program, not as an independent.  None of these people in this industry are independent.  They all migrate from program to program, or form their own little business within the industry.  In this case, to help validate the industry itself.  But in others, staff leave to become "escorts" for kids, or found their own programs or just go off to work at another prison camp for teens when the last one gets shut down.  

But there is no doubt about the statement Aspen is ripe for a take down.  That legal statement that they provide no therapy or treatment is gold!

[Anonymous]

Why Google Ellen Behrans when you can just get the info off Struggling Teens?

http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/p ... 5285.shtml

About the Author:
Ellen Behrens, PhD is a Licensed Psychologist and owner of Canyon Research and Consulting, a company that provides consulting and training services to mental health treatment programs and providers. She has extensive experience working in residential programs as a clinical director, psychological evaluator, therapist, researcher and consultant.
[/b]

Still consider her "independent"?  She's held down every gig you can in a program.

Come again, John Boy?

[Anonymous]

Yet more confirmation of Ellen's employment by Aspen. And I've taken the liberty of screen saving this knowing how dishonest you and the gang of criminals that killed your son are
http://cache.zoominfo.com/cachedpage/?a ... me=Behrens

Youth Care, Inc. (Youth Care Academy and Pine Ridge Academy)

Posted by Tom Croke on Thursday, 9 December 1999, at 3:03 p.m. (eastern time)

We have just learned that Youth Care of Draper, Utah, one of our co-sponsors has just been purchased by Aspen. Robin Stephens will continue as Executive Director. Co owners with Robin, Liz Smith (Pine Ridge Director) and Dr. LePray will not be continuing. Ellen Behrens will be clinical director.

We will certainly miss Dr. LePray and Liz Smith, but have the highest regard for Robin and Ellen. We at FamilyLight Consultants have long wanted to see more Youth Care / Pine Ridge beds available, as we believe these are the finest programs of their kinds available.

As much as we have nostalgia for the days of Youth Care, Inc. as a stand alone organization, we respect the fact that Aspen has generally maintained the quality of their acquisitions. We can at least hope for some addtional beds similar to what is offered at Pine Ridge and Youth Care. And we are proud to have an Aspen affiliate as one of our co-sponsors.

Best wishes to Robin and Ellen, as well as Liz and Dr. L.

Tom Croke

[Whooter]

Still not even one link outside fornits or cafety?

Does anyone really think that someone with no back ground in residential treatment, no understanding of what is involved or what the kids go through on a daily basis, What type of kids are there and the type of environment.  You think this person would be qualified to design and implement a clinical study to show effectiveness on a place he/she has no experience in.. what questions to ask etc.

Or another question… who would be more qualified to interview a kid who just left a program…. Someone with no experience or link to the industry (like you would like) or someone from fornits?  Who would ask the most appropriate questions?.

see my point?

[Whooter]

I hate to inform you that Deborah from Fornits (Plano, Texas) wrote that letter (use to be an admin here.. would change facts in peoples posts to meet her immediate needs)  remember her...  go back to your source and scroll down to the bottom of the letter... sorry buddy... ask psy or Ginger is you doubt who it is.... now who is the dumb one?

Okay like I said any link that isnt related to fornits or cafety? Something preferably from Aspen... But even if there was one (just for shits and giggles) that would not damage the results.  All testing is done preferably by people who have experience within the industry they are testing... so I still done see the problem.

Wow, Bruce got smoked on that one.  Didnt think anyone knew she wrote that?  Shame on you RB.

[Anonymous]

http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/p ... 5285.shtml

About the Author:
Ellen Behrens, PhD is a Licensed Psychologist and owner of Canyon Research and Consulting, a company that provides consulting and training services to mental health treatment programs and providers.  She has extensive experience working in residential programs as a clinical director, psychological evaluator, therapist, researcher and consultant.

Why would her study be applicable to Aspen at all?  Aspen does not provide mental health treatment in their programs.

Hey roob, we went beyond Fornits.  We went to Struggling Teens.

[Anonymous]

Still not even one link outside fornits or cafety?

Does anyone really think that someone with no back ground in residential treatment, no understanding of what is involved or what the kids go through on a daily basis, What type of kids are there and the type of environment.  You think this person would be qualified to design and implement a clinical study to show effectiveness on a place he/she has no experience in.. what questions to ask etc.

Or another question… who would be more qualified to interview a kid who just left a program…. Someone with no experience or link to the industry (like you would like) or someone from fornits?  Who would ask the most appropriate questions?.

see my point?

Actually an independent study would be best done by a group totally independent of the mental health field.  It's merely collecting data;  Behrens company sells its services to programs - how can you not expect her to not back them?

[Anonymous]

So, here's more about the connections to Aspen Education group to the "survey" they funded(repeated for John D reuben, who seems to have missed them the first tims)

Research conducted by KEITH RUSSELL, PH.D.,
OUTDOOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTHCARE RESEARCH COOPERATIVE

The people doing the study are the former director (possibly still the director) of aspen's youth care, and Keith Russel in coordination with outdoor behavioral healthcare research cooperative. Look who founded and runs the organization
Keith Russel was founded by Aspen, according to their own words:
http://www.obhic.com/about/index.html

The Outdoor Behavioral Healthcare Industry Council (OBHIC) was founded in 1997 when representatives from a handful of wilderness treatment programs joined to collaborate and to share best practices. The founding programs realized the advantage of uniting to promote program standards and excellence and thus OBHIC was founded.
Today, the organization and its member programs have been instrumental in raising the bar for wilderness treatment, facilitating research on the efficacy of wilderness treatment for adolescents, and in promoting the industry.
OBHIC FOUNDING MEMBER PROGRAMS:
•   Anasazi Foundation
•   Aspen Education Group
•   Catherine Freer Wilderness Therapy Programs
•   RedCliff Ascent
•   SUWS

http://www.aspenacademy.com/events.html

Keith C. Russell, Ph.D.
Director Outdoor Behavioral Healthcare Research Cooperative (OBHRC)

[RMA Survivor]

Precisely!  Anyone who has actually worked with this industry would automatically disqualify themselves for an independent study.  Any competent research group, using standard methods, would be able to independently conduct a proper study if they were worth their salt to begin with.  It is not entirely unreasonable to consult with people in the industry when conducting research, but to have those who are in the industry conducting the research would be unreasonable.

This has historically been a huge problem in science.  Scientists who have a vested interest or desire for a certain outcome, finding exactly what they were looking for.  That is why independent peer-reviewed appraisals are so important.