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Aspen Education Group lawyers..AEG not mental health program
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--- Quote from: "I'm not logging in to chat up a troll but I have an idea" ---I would ask why you two are going on analyzing the “study”/self-serving propaganda of a program’s treatment when that same program undermined the validity of this “study” by stating in court that they do not provide any treatment…but then I realized you’re just that one pathetic program troll –talking to yourself. This really must be a tough time for you troll.
Idea! Let’s send a copy of Aspen’s statements (in court documents) to Consumer affairs etc. and then we can send Aspen’s “study” and other related misrepresentations to the original presiding judge!
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Anonymous:
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Clinical -- Involving or based on direct observation of the patient
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Wait - you mean "student", don't you? You need to read what Aspen's lawyers said again. No kid in an Aspen program can be called a "patient", now can they? So your definition of clinical was taken from a source describing legitimate health care, not a school like Aspen.
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Patient -- the recipient of any of various personal services.
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Too lame. LOL. At least list a source.
patient
Adjective
1. enduring difficult situations with an even temper
2. persevering or diligent: his years of patient work may finally pay off
Noun
a person who is receiving medical care
patiently adv
Collins Essential English Dictionary 2nd Edition 2006 © HarperCollins Publishers 2004, 2006
patient
1. One who receives medical attention, care, or treatment.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
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Whooter:
--- Quote from: "I'm not logging in to chat up a troll but I have an idea" ---I would ask why you two are going on analyzing the “study”/self-serving propaganda of a program’s treatment when that same program undermined the validity of this “study” by stating in court that they do not provide any treatment…but then I realized you’re just that one pathetic program troll –talking to yourself. This really must be a tough time for you troll.
Idea! Let’s send a copy of Aspen’s statements (in court documents) to Consumer affairs etc. and then we can send Aspen’s “study” and other related misrepresentations to the original presiding judge!
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What I typically do is send the letter (with hard copied documents) and then follow up with an email with the attachements so that they have it from both sources.
Consumer affairs and to the judges office (find out who he works with also so the letter and documents can be shared).
Then wait a few months.
Whooter:
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More results to come!!
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I for one would like to see more detail. Did they release any graphs or tables?
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Here is a link to one of the sites which has results in Graph form (bottom of page):
Link to Study Results
Hope this helps.
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I was curious on the results that the boys stress level increased post program but the girls did not as much. Do you think this is related to integrating back into the home at all? They commented on this themselves, but no cause was attributed.
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My guess would be that boys are not as social as girls so they dont handle the transition back into the family and meeting new friends as easily as girls do, so it is a more stressful for them. I found that interesting too.
The other interesting thing was, did you notice that the girls performed better in most areas until they hit post program and then the boys performed better. So the program seems to be more effective longer for boys than girls. Did you notice this also?
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---No, you need to understand the terms a little more. You dont have to be a mental health program to use terms like "clinical" or "Therapeutic practices". You could give the kid a massage once a week or a hot mineral bath and market yourself as therapeutic. As far as Clinical --- all you need to do is watch the kid 24/7.
Clinical -- Involving or based on direct observation of the patient
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You just made that up, didn't you? Clinical indicates clinic and clinicians, and Aspen does not have either. Clear cut case of deceiving folks. I hope Greg Kutz and the GAO clock all this. Better send it to them to be sure.
Clinical:
regarding the diagnosis and/or treatment of patients within established health care guidelines.
(anxiety-panic.com/dictionary/en-dictc.htm)
#1 relating to a clinic or conducted in or as if in a clinic and depending on direct observation of patients; "clinical observation"; "clinical case ...
#2 scientifically detached; unemotional; "he spoke in the clipped clinical monotones typical of police testimony"
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
Adjective
1. of or relating to the observation and treatment of patients directly: clinical trials of a new drug (keyword: treatment, which Aspen does not provide)
2. of or relating to a clinic
3. logical and unemotional: they have a somewhat clinical attitude to their children's upbringing (This is a description of John D. Reuben)
4. (of a room or buildings) plain, simple, and usually unattractive
clinically adv
Collins Essential English Dictionary 2nd Edition 2006 © HarperCollins Publishers 2004, 2006
Aspen is screwed.
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