Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
Long-Term Outcome Studies
RMA Survivor:
Damn Castle, you found me over here?
I knew all that. President Roosevelt even had a car phone in his limo.
I actually sold cell phones briefly after leaving Idaho. Working with my little brother from RMA of all people who got me the job. I sold those bricks. The most popular was the Motorola one used by Michael Douglas in the movie Wall Street. Not a bad phone either.
So when are we getting together for lunch? Now that I know we are neighbors.
Troll Control:
I'm wondering how anyone can study the effects of something they claim not to provide? This will require some explaining.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---I'm wondering how anyone can study the effects of something they claim not to provide? This will require some explaining.
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Placebo!! You take a program which doesn’t provide any therapy at all and then track them against kids who have received therapy to see which program is more effective.
Researchers do this all the time with drug testing….brilliant idea!!!
RMA Survivor:
Too bad Aspen didn't do this or we would have had more information than the extremely narrow scope version they published. And why not contact all former Aspen program students? Why such a tiny sampling? It gives the appearance that they selected a group based on prior knowledge. Because they had the ability to contact and interview a greater number of students, and didn't. And they could have contacted students in the post-program period of five to ten years, rather than the narrow scope they used. The survey has such limited value, except perhaps for propaganda purposes.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "RMA Survivor" ---Too bad Aspen didn't do this or we would have had more information than the extremely narrow scope version they published. And why not contact all former Aspen program students? Why such a tiny sampling? It gives the appearance that they selected a group based on prior knowledge. Because they had the ability to contact and interview a greater number of students, and didn't. And they could have contacted students in the post-program period of five to ten years, rather than the narrow scope they used. The survey has such limited value, except perhaps for propaganda purposes.
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These are all good questions,RMA, but we would need to ask the professionals to really get an understanding of why they choose the number they did or the scope and boundary conditions. It could be that there are so many other effects and stimuli that the students are exposed to after graduation that the direct effects of the program can only be measured only so long after leaving. Looking at someone 20 years out could not be conclusive. What would you attribute his success too? What influenced him over the last 5 years? Good marriage? Bad marriage? College? Years of an abusive relationship?
See what I am saying?
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