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Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "try another castle" ---Speaking of bullshit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o
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I thought you said you were Jewish? Or are you a Jew-Atheist? lol
Seriously though, if you dont believe in the bible. if you dont believe in judaism, how can you be a zionist? at least you did better than liberia, those back to africa blacks sure fucked that place up royally. nothing like the holy land.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---I thought you said you were Jewish? Or are you a Jew-Atheist? lol
Seriously though, if you dont believe in the bible. if you dont believe in judaism, how can you be a zionist? at least you did better than liberia, those back to africa blacks sure fucked that place up royally. nothing like the holy land.
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are you retarded or something?
were you not paying attention to the post that said "Being jewish is an ethnicity and a religion. You can by ethnically jewish, and not religiously jewish, or vice versa. being born jewish only makes you ethnically jewish?"

When Jews were being exterminated by nazis, they didnt care about religion. Converting from judaism would have not saved you. If you're jewish, you're jewish, period, religious or not. It's an ethnicity or race. assuming all Jews are Jewish  is like assuming all mexicans are catholics, or all white americans are protestants. I repeat, it's an ETHNICITY. If you hadnt noticed yet....and this is a pretty tell-tale sign of ethnical differences; jews have significantly different DNA, facial characteristics, and hereditary diseases than their white counterparts from the same regions of the globe. If you've spend a good amount of time with jews, you could pick out jews from a crowd weather they are religious or not.

The original intention of zionism is to provide Jews all over the world a homeland, a shelter, where they can escape to and be protected by their brethren in case of another holocaust or similar event (hence the logic behind holocaust denial - no holocaust, no need for israel). Very few jews in israel are religious; actually it would be safe to say that a greater portion of the american jewry is religious than the israeli jewry. Zionism is all about unity, self-sufficiency, and protection of the jewish race; and not providing jewish with a "conquest" of the "holy land".

Antigen:
Oh Jesus Christ on  broken crutch! If you think that article about the megalomaniac Bill Gothard and his buddies the extra chromosome fundie Dominionists had anything to do with the majority of mainstream x-tians you must either have not read the article or you have serious reading comprehension issues.

And I'm not defending the X-tian faith. I'm with "servant of god" on that one; There is no answer. That is the answer! But I'm not condemning all believers in any one faith or another. There's a difference between someone who has an eccentric (imo) belief in angels or fairies or daemons or demons but who is otherwise sane and someone like Bill Gothard & the Bush people (aka Neocons or the Religious Reich) who pray daily for the onset of the end times and thirst for the blood of holy war.

I actually ran into some Gothardites when I was homeschooling my young children in So. Florida. There had been essentially one serious state organization, which was largely comprised of Christian mothers who's primary reason for homeschooling was to give their kids a religious education, separate from the humanist culture of public schools. They were ok to deal with as far as legal and legislative issues and for organizing large outings and fun field trips on the cheap. Then the Gothards came along at about the same time as a Mormon organization with possible Scientology ties; Home School Legal Defense Association. http://www.hslda.org/Default.asp?bhcp=1

What happened next was fugly! At a homeschooling picnic, which doubled as an organizational meeting for the more involved mothers, one of my friends (who was raised Catholic but professed agnosticism) overheard one of these Gothardite mothers explain to her toddler that those fires you see on the edge of the Everglads some nights (bonfires, usually bikers or other revelers throwing a kegger) were pegan rituals where infants were sacrificed and thrown on the fire. At that same and similar events (only contact the Gothardite families had with non-Gothardites) these 'loving' Christian parents regularly referred to said non-Gothardites as "Pegans." The child was HORRIFIED! and, after that, clung to her mother's mid-calf-length skirt (required dress for all women over the age of about 11 by the patriarchal Gothard cult) in stark fear of the "Pegans" around her.

They went on the attack, running non Gothards out of the state organizaion and even attacking their businesses thought slander, picketing and other nasty acts. Another friend of mine lost her educational supply store behind that because she dared to run for office within said state organization. Now, I never attended those state org picnics. I only put together small junkets to state parks, museums, factories and infrastructure facilities and "cruise to nowhere" trips on the cruise ships out of Port Everglades and such like. But I remember a lengthy discussion on Blanket Training that sprung out of one of my friends' having witnessed a Gothard family inflicting this peculiarly cruel treatment on an infant no more than about 8 months old. Just try this Google Search on blanket training gothard paint stick for more info. Note that probably the most comprehensive telling of this story, Gentle Spirit Magazine, is now entirely password protected. That's because HSLDA and the Gothard cult sued the fuck out of Cheryl Lindsey Seelhoff, publisher of Gentle Spirit Magazine

Now then, OR (original respondent to original poster), if you can take some time to read up and educate yourself about WTF we're talking about and STILL wish to identify with and defend these sadistic lunatics as your fellow martyred "Christians" than God bless you for at least being forthright in your words. Now stay the FUCK away from my kids!

seamus:
There is a town just north of me(Zion,Illinois) that was founded by a fucking lunatic fundie church in the 1890s.These dipshits were called "Dowieites",after the head fucknugget that started the church.Now the dowies believed the earth to be flat( consider the town is on Lake Michigan,and you can see the curvature of the earth).They actually had laws on the local books,that women couldnt wear beige shoes,because they were provacative,and selling shellfish was also against the law,as it had aphrodesiac properties. and (go figure) it was dry until the late 1990s.
  Now the town is full of tiny fundie churches,welfare mamas,crackheads and Bizzaro Bi-Polar street corner preachers,they had a shit-fit at the city council mtg about a month ago over a seasonal haunted house,fundies sayin it promoted satanism and such.......Gary Coleman is from Zion ........wtf

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