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Whooter:
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Why does it bother people here so much that other people do well?
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It doesn't. It bothers us when people lie. It bothers us when people twist our words around. It bothers us when people try to minimize what's being done to kids in the name of "treatment". But you know this already.
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All those things bother me too. But why do people react the way they did on this thread when this woman told her story? Why did fonits posters pretend to know her son and tell her that he performed oral sex on everyone at camp for extra rice? Why did they say he was gay to her?
Did you read the op and the thread Anne? Why do people like yourself and Samara just ignore posts like that and focus on my post where I was trying to help this woman?
Why is everyone so threatened when posts like this appear?
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Anne Bonney:
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--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Why does it bother people here so much that other people do well?
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It doesn't. It bothers us when people lie. It bothers us when people twist our words around. It bothers us when people try to minimize what's being done to kids in the name of "treatment". But you know this already.
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What the heck has gotten in to you lately. People do well in programs and you know this, so stop it, Anne.
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Don't presume to tell me what I know, you fucking simpleton.
Anne Bonney:
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--- Quote from: "john David Reuben" ---Thanks worriedAnnie, I appreciate the time you took to post something positive. Your story is an oasis here and typical of most parents experience from 2nd nature, its just that many dont post here or find their way to this wayward site.
I wish you and your son all the happiness you deserve and need to catch up on.
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Actually, it's been more or less proved by peer reviewed study, that it's common for participants in "teen programs" to encounter human rights violations, and abuses of all kinds.
http://www.cafety.org/research/121-rese ... -pinto-phd
"I have spoken with professionals who are shocked by descriptions of institutional abuse that continue to emerge in unregulated “therapeutic” boarding schools and similar “specialty” programs across the country. In disbelief, people often ask, “How do you know that these aren’t just a few isolated incidents that have been blown way out of proportion?”
...these survey findings nonetheless provide compelling information indicating that there are far more than a few isolated cases of youth who are being mistreated and are suffering in programs across the country. ..these reports describe treatment that appears to be significantly below commonly accepted standards of care in the fields of education, mental health, child welfare, and human rights. "
Meanwhile, Aspen education group has never authenticated or confirmed in accordance with any medical body's standards and practices that it offers any form of therapy whatsoever.
"Instead of treatment, however, Burton says [Aspen Education Group] cuts [teens] off from the world and put in a place where teenagers are "incarcerated against their will and without their consent for dubious treatment of a clandestine, undefined and unconfirmed nature."
If you weren't too stupid to have seen that, yo uwouldnt have killed Mike Reuben
http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=28657
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_q ... n11484238/
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Whooter:
Anne, why do people like you and Samara accept these types of posts to a mother telling her story of her son? Yet are upset when I post to defend her or balance the scales. My posts were not hurtful to anyone, but that doesnt seem to matter to people like you.
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---OMG I was there with your kid, what a small world. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but your son is gay and had the time of his life sucking off all of us for extra rice. That's the real reason he gained weight.. well.. and he swallows. Extra nutrients!
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Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Anne, why do people like you and Samara accept these types of posts to a mother telling her story of her son? Yet are upset when I post to defend her or balance the scales. My posts were not hurtful to anyone, but that doesnt seem to matter to people like you.
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Because you lied. I wasn't upset with "worriedanne". You lied to advance your agenda and that tends to piss people off. It's really not that complicated.
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