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CEDU Deaths
try another castle:
Someone could always get enrollment lists, if its available, and mail a survey to every single person asking "1. Are you dead? Y/N 2. If the answer to 1 was yes, please write brief description on cause of death"
Ursus:
Three points:
1.) It is not necessary nor possible (in almost all cases) to prove a direct and concrete causal relationship between CEDU attendance and suicide. The operative phrase that would be used were this written up in a scientific paper is potentially "a factor in." CEDU being a factor in increased suicide rates is pahlenty bad enough, believe me.
2.) The critical time frame would not be during attendance, as presumably there would be more oversight during this time (but should be included anyway). Rather, the most critical time would be in the years immediately following CEDU attendance, when despair and depression set in without environmental controls, up to the late 20's or so. Why so long? 'Cuz that's about how long it takes for people's brains to mature out of the "act on impulse without regard for consequences" mode. Physiologically speaking, that is.
3.) Suicide attempts might also be included in the analysis.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "try another castle" ---As a result? Impossible to prove.
While attending? The one I know about is Avila, unsure if there are others.
I think the operative question is how many people who attended CEDU committed suicide, and if it deviates from the rest of the population.
Would also still be difficult to determine the causal relationship, as many kids who were put in placement suffered from legitimate mental illnesses such as depression/bipolar, etc. (points to self) Many might argue that its simply because they were troubled kids who became troubled adults. (regardless on whether or not the kid really had problems or it was the parents who were blowing things out of proportion.)
Point being, there are lots of variables. I still maintain that there should be a study of the industry as a whole, conducted by sociologists who are adept at discovering true causal relationships that are pretty airtight, as opposed to wild speculation. (such as "d&d causes teen suicides" etc.)
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I get the feeling you are a covert CEDU supporter working for the cult in some way.
Yes. I can state unequivocally CEDU caused suicides. Like Straight caused suicides. .
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Che Gookin" ---Well, I have something else in mind with the information. But I like where you are going with your question as it is an interesting one given the lifespan of CEDU.
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There is information about CEDU suicides I could send you. I don’t know if I should because of potential…problems that could cause. Make no mistake about it, CEDU murdered.
try another castle:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "try another castle" ---As a result? Impossible to prove.
While attending? The one I know about is Avila, unsure if there are others.
I think the operative question is how many people who attended CEDU committed suicide, and if it deviates from the rest of the population.
Would also still be difficult to determine the causal relationship, as many kids who were put in placement suffered from legitimate mental illnesses such as depression/bipolar, etc. (points to self) Many might argue that its simply because they were troubled kids who became troubled adults. (regardless on whether or not the kid really had problems or it was the parents who were blowing things out of proportion.)
Point being, there are lots of variables. I still maintain that there should be a study of the industry as a whole, conducted by sociologists who are adept at discovering true causal relationships that are pretty airtight, as opposed to wild speculation. (such as "d&d causes teen suicides" etc.)
--- End quote ---
I get the feeling you are a covert CEDU supporter working for the cult in some way.
Yes. I can state unequivocally CEDU caused suicides. Like Straight caused suicides. .
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Damn, you sussed me. :P
Im assuming you are n00b.
Of course CEDU caused suicides.
What's your game plan on proving it? Airtight.
That's what Im talking about.
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