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Another death last week at an Aspen program
Whooter:
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--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Here's one I found:
Colgate University
It was part of a study, there was a woman, Shapiro, who conducted an independent study of Therapeutic Boarding Schools and found them to be extremely effective. She found no evidence of abuse. It was published in a journal if I recall correctly. She is currently working with “Students for Sensible Drug Policy” and “National Institute for Mental Health”. She is pretty cool and really into helping kids.
Valerie Shapiro
She was selected to be the 2007 Gottlieb Fellow and awarded summer funding to participate in the NIH Multidisciplinary Predoctoral Clinical Research Training Program. In 2008-2009, she will work with the Social Development Research Group as an NIMH Prevention Trainee using a prevention science framework to research risk and protection factors in child development, the implementation of community-level interventions, and questions regarding the scalability and sustainability of tested-effective programs.
Currently she is working on papers examining whether the SSDP “Students for Sensible Drug Policy” intervention worked better (or worse) for people who were high in behavioral disinhibition/externalizing, as well as a qualitative paper examining the transition to adulthood for youths involved in crime and drugs during adolescence.
Link to Study
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Thanks for the link. I believe you were right this was published. Here is an exerpt:
There are many advantages to treatment in a residential facility. As Wong (1999, p. 42) reports, “Adolescents with long-standing and intense aggressive, destructive, and disruptive behavior are not good candidates for short-term, outpatient, or in-home treatment. Simply put, youth in this state do not participate in or cooperate with therapy. Some type of extended residential or alternative living situation is probably necessary to provide a secure and controlled environment in which to instigate behavior change.” Inpatient care can provide immediate help in a crisis situation, and can remove the client from dangerous situations (Barker, 1974). More so than the average outpatient program, residential facilities offer more opportunities for therapeutic contact, more monitoring of dangerous and disturbing behaviors, and a more direct evaluation of aftercare options. Assessments that are hard to do as an outpatient can be done at these facilities, and at multiple intervals, and hence the reactions to medication and other interventions can be watched particularly closely
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Great find Whooter:
There was no abuse noted and the program at ASR was found to be highly effective. Lets take a closer look.
DJ no violence now!!! Lets keep your temper at bay.
Troll Control:
Highly effective? Let's look at the data analysis again, shall we? First page of the abstract clearly states:
--- Quote ---"...the standardized measures of patient relations, self-reliance, conduct, and self-reported depression were still well within the clinical range."
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So, no measurable improvement indicates "highly effective"? You'll have to explain that to the rest of us round-worlders.
When a kid has finished 18 months at ASR, they will still be clinically depressed, have bad relations, low self-reliance and bad conduct. So sayeth the Shapiro paper. So parents are paying some $120k for 18 months of zero improvement.
Let's also not forget that Aspen's program rises to the level of child abuse under Oregon law.
Troll Control:
*crickets*
Whooter gets fully owned in debate yet again after making demonstrably false claims of "multiple university studies proving effectiveness of programs and published in multiple university science journals." Another crock of steaming shit served up by the ardent supporter of institutionalized child abuse.
So we're back to square one: No clinical trials have ever been conducted and the one piece of "evidence" Whooter holds out as proof of efficacy (a freshman psychology paper) actually says on the first page that programs, based on data, are completely ineffective and participants show no clinical improvement after successfully completing a $120k, 18 month institutionalization.
Next topic...
Whooter:
I have to admit that I didnt think I would see the day where we were discussing a study together. I am most surprised with you DJ and I am happy you are able to have a "back and forth" with a study in your hand vs just your feelings and emotions on the topic. I noticed you didnt threaten anyone lol..... (just kidding). This has been productive, though, even though we dont agree we are at least speaking from the same document for a change.... instead of this parent said this.. this survivor said this etc.
We are all quoting the study which is the important thing and we all chose to site different parts to support our thoughts and beliefs which is a huge step. Here are a couple of excepts that I found interesting:
My findings contradict the idea that making fundamental changes during late adolescence is nearly impossible (Loeber, 1991) and also dispel the myth that long-term treatment is detrimental to normal development. The most important finding of this study is that residential treatment for troubled adolescents has the potential to be extremely effective.
Colgate
The parents and students both perceived changes in the student from the time before treatment to the time of follow-up. Parents found the frequency of alcohol use and of cigarette smoking to have improved (p ? .01). Parents also found the following areas to have shown additional improvements (p ? .001): trouble making behavior at school, sexual promiscuity, desire to hurt oneself, the impact of alcohol use on daily life, the frequency of drug use, and the impact of drug use on daily life. Students had similar impressions of their own improvement.
Ursus:
--- Quote ---Students had similar impressions of their own improvement.
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How many of those 17 students were still living at home when they filled out those surveys? And how many months had it been, since they graduated the program at ASR?
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