Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
My son at Aspen Ranch
Anonymous:
99% chance you’re a troll,NIGEL, but, god help us, there really are people as gross as you.
You “had him escorted”? You mean you had him kidnapped, you evil Joseph fritzl. He says he knows he was messed up? Uh, yeah, victims say all sorts of crap they feel will please their captors in effort to save themselves.
Elizabeth Smart said she was Brian David Mitchell’s wedded wife:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=90754&page=1
"I know you think I'm Elizabeth Smart, but I'm not".
He denies physical abuse? Ain’t kidnapping someone physical abuse? Yeah, it is--its illegal in fact! http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/foia_re ... m01037.htm
But doing evil, seemingly socially accepted things to a kid can sure confuse them about what qualifies as physical abuse, kidnapping or reality. You, you have no excuse. You are simply a morally deranged gargoyle.
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---99% chance you’re a troll,NIGEL, but, god help us, there really are people as gross as you.
You “had him escorted”? You mean you had him kidnapped, you evil Joseph fritzl. He says he knows he was messed up? Uh, yeah, victims say all sorts of crap they feel will please their captors in effort to save themselves.
Elizabeth Smart said she was Brian David Mitchell’s wedded wife:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=90754&page=1
"I know you think I'm Elizabeth Smart, but I'm not".
He denies physical abuse? Ain’t kidnapping someone physical abuse? Yeah, it is--its illegal in fact! http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/foia_re ... m01037.htm
But doing evil, seemingly socially accepted things to a kid can sure confuse them about what qualifies as physical abuse, kidnapping or reality. You, you have no excuse. You are simply a morally deranged gargoyle.
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Ha,Ha,Ha, Sorry, Nigel, dont take it too seriously. The longer you ignore the pleas to remove your son the more you will be compared to the Nazis. The Elizabeth Smart reference is a new twist. There are a few fringe elements who post here so dont let them chase you off.
Hang in there........ you are definitely getting all sides here!!
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Thanks for the heads-up on the who. I searched his posts and found that all those things are things he said, but he seemsw to change his story a lot and pretend to be all different people. I definitely wouldn't trust anything he says. He just lies too much.
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True. Nigel, just look at the thread 'TheWho' and you'll see this is true. I'd also suggest you pull up his username and display all of his posts. The lies and contradictions are evident after reading just a few posts.
psy:
--- Quote from: "NIGEL" ---My biggest concern now is knowing when it is right to bring him home. He wants to come home asap. I want to bring him home when I know he is ready (there is no easy way to make sure you are doing it at the right time). I will continue to evaluate.
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Well. Be aware that "your child is making much progress but he still needs more time and isn't ready yet" (sort of like a pizza) is a common theme with programs. My guess is that if you took him home right how he would probably behave himself, especially if you got him therapy to help him both deal with his original issues and any the program may have caused.
--- Quote ---I am thankful that there is a forum where I can hear both sides.
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Well. That's the point of this forum. Sometimes it can get crazy since it's unmoderated, but it's better than having to trust a moderator who can covertly change your words or delete your posts entirely and ban you just to suppress a dissenting view (and I've seen this happen on other forums dealing with this issue... of which the only ones left are private).
--- Quote ---I don't believe everything I read, but I am open minded
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A wise policy.
psy:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Nigel, just look at the thread 'TheWho' and you'll see this is true. I'd also suggest you pull up his username and display all of his posts. The lies and contradictions are evident after reading just a few posts.
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Actually, it takes a sharp eye and several pages to really spot it. He's good at what he does. There's no question about that. I would suggest to Nigel to look not just at both sides but also at the possible underlying motivations for what is said by each poster. Motivations reveal a lot.
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