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My son at Aspen Ranch
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "iamartsy" ---AEG does not use official therapists. Most kids I know who have gone there have not received any help. I would pull your child ASAP. I have read the pages of kids that have gone there, and they have all had poor experiences.
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Great post. The SINGLE poster 'who' is in favor of AR is now claiming his daughter went there but for five loooong years claimed she went to another 'school'. Very fishy. This poster, aka 'thewho' runs an Aspen feeder group. Nigel, BEWARE of Aspen.
Anonymous:
@Auntie Em - babe, I think I love you. What a rational, level-headed, measured and reasonable response. Bully for you, love! AEG is not where your kids should be...
AuntieEm2:
Another teen has died in an Aspen-run program.
@ Nigel, I rest my case. Please heed your wife's doubts. Her gut instinct about this is right. If you are reluctant to share this story with your wife, then your gut should tell you that you, too, know your boy needs to come home now--not in October, not in 2 years.
http://http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/09/portland_teen_collapses_and_di.html
Sergey Blashchishen, 16, died Friday, August 28, 2009. He had been there one day. This is not an isolated incident. We'll wait for the details to emerge, but I expect we will hear the familiar story of events emerge: The teen complains about not feeling well, and is ignored. Then the teen vomits, and is ignored. Then the teen collapes, and the staff on hand is not trained to save the child's life. How many times have we heard this story?
I am so angry. Don't tell me that just because some families have good outcomes in Aspen programs that risking any child's life and well being in these programs is justified.
I note sadly, since this had been one of my recommendations to you, that an attempt had been made to place the boy with an uncle prior to placing him in SageWalk. Please keep this boy and this family in your thoughts.
Auntie Em
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More on SageWalk from the Fornits Wiki
http://http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Sagewalk
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From The Oregonian
Portland teen collapses and dies during wilderness camp hike
by Stephen Beaven, The Oregonian
Tuesday September 01, 2009, 2:44 PM
The Lake County Sheriff's Office is investigating the death of a Portland teen who collapsed during a hike as part of a wilderness camp exercise, a spokesman said today.
Sergey Blashchishen, 16, died Friday after collapsing about 2:30 p.m., said Deputy Chuck Pore. An autopsy was performed on Sunday but the results are incomplete and a cause of death has not been determined, Pore said.
Investigators are trying to find out if Blashchishen, who lived in Northeast Portland, had any medical problems that might have contributed to his death, Pore said. He had passed a physical the day before he died.
Blashchishen was attending the SageWalk wilderness school, a program for troubled teens based in Redmond. He was hiking with a group in northern Lake County between Burns and Bend when he got sick.
"He said he didn't feel good and shortly after that collapsed," Pore said.
The Bureau of Land Management has suspended the permit for SageWalk to operate on BLM land, pending the outcome of the investigation. It could not be confirmed if Blashchishen was on BLM property when he collapsed.
"SageWalk considers student safety our number one priority and takes this incident very seriously," SageWalk Executive Director Mike Bednarz said in a statement.
Lyudmila Blashchishena, Sergey's mother, said she was told that her son vomited and then passed out during the hike, adding that he did not suffer from any medical conditions.
"We are still so shocked," she said. "He always did sports, never had any disease. How could he pass away just from hiking?"
Blashchishen dropped out of Parkrose High School last year, his mother said, and enrolled in the wilderness school on Thursday.
He had worked construction and lived with an uncle before deciding to go to SageWalk.
"He asked me to place him in the boot camp," his mother said. "He really wanted to change his behavior."
--Stephen Beaven; stevebeaven@news.oregonian.com
AuntieEm2:
Guest21 has a point. Talk to a parent. Talk to Lyudmila Blashchishena, who will be burying her son this week.
Auntie Em
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
Great post. The SINGLE poster 'who' is in favor of AR is now claiming his daughter went there but for five loooong years claimed she went to another 'school'. Very fishy. This poster, aka 'thewho' runs an Aspen feeder group. Nigel, BEWARE of Aspen.
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Yes, but in all fairness to the guest poster, like Aunti Em mentioned, it was an Aspen program and she did turn out well while the ones that were pulled went back to their old ways, got pregnant and moved away. I think Nigel is looking for a little more direction for his son besides what he was getting at home, unless there were local solutions that he did not try, then I could see him brining him home early. But if all the local options have been exhausted then I think this is the right place for him right now to keep him safe and get him moving along a better path with a healthier life style.
Either direction will not be easy. It takes hard work to turn around a persons behavior and habits.
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