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spots:
Thank you to the folks who have already emailed me privately about State visits, as well as FaceKhan and an Anonymous intelligent perspective.  Yes!!!!  Write your elected representatives.

It appears most people reading this request understand what I want and why.  Disregarding Carey and the other person posting really clueless sound bites about State visits...

State from Tijuana DOES visit regularly.  I positively know this.  Could be from the 3 weeks continual phone calls between me and Tijuana Consulate, or maybe my 1+ hour conversation when the main consular officer phoned me at home.  From these conversations, I know they do visit according to law, but their "random, surprise" visits are arranged well in advance, and usually involve lunch with Dace before the "inspection".  

If you are a former inmate or a parent of one, please ask if anyone ever personally saw visitors (an entourage of "suits") walking around.  Tijuana State told me he often brings Mexican officials with him on these inspections, thereby presumably also blunting the impact of the visit for the concerned Mexican authorities as well.  From his very candid and detailed call, I *know* what he does (because I believe what he said).

If a shred of what kids say on this and other Internet sites is correct, the consular officer is only being shown Upper Level areas (he is told other areas are off limits, because "it disturbs the students" to have visitors roaming around). He told me what food was being served, little anecdotes about student activities, the silence of nearly 600 teens which he equated to his Catholic school experience as normal.  Ask any of your Casa friends if 5 kids sunning themselves in beach chairs overlooking the Pacific Ocean is a normal Casa afternoon.  Mr. Anceldua thought so!

This gentleman has his own agenda, which I interpret as maintaining the quiet status quo in his own little kingdom.  Since he has become the Front Man for the American Government, it is imperative to use the power of the US government to gain access to "questionable" areas of Casa by the Sea. The US Department of State has become the de facto arbitrator of whether there is abuse or not, not something his job description emphasized. Pressure needs to be put upon the State Department in D.C. to broaden the witnessing and recognition of abuse...to not accept a cursory look-see and declare this facility A-OK.  

Bruce Grant is the State Department official responsible for inspecting Tranquility Bay.  Only in the last 2 months or so has he begun to treat the public, his bosses in Washington, and inquring parents as anything more than nasty impediments to his tidy station in Jamaica. Parents have tried to determine the conditions at TB before they send their kids in, and State in Kingston, Jamaica has said there have been no complaints...when, in fact, there have been a raft of them specifically to the Embassy in Jamaica.  There has been a change lately, however, with a lot more candor and cooperation from Mr. Grant and his staff.  It may be a coincidence that several very high-profile media reports absolutely blasting Tranquility Bay have appeared in the media in the last 2 months.

I want to see the State Department do a better job in protecting US citizens in Mexico.  Please think hard, and let me know if you can add any corroboration, so we can talk to Washington, D.C. and implement the controls the government thinks it already has in place in Mexico.  Ask any WWASPS veterans you know, especially those who do not regularly read this forum.  Thank you.

Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2003-08-22 10:53:00, spots wrote:

"I want to see the State Department do a better job in protecting US citizens in Mexico. Please think hard, and let me know if you can add any corroboration, so we can talk to Washington, D.C. and implement the controls the government thinks it already has in place in Mexico. Ask any WWASPS veterans you know, especially those who do not regularly read this forum. Thank you."

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1) Please do as the lady asks. It's not a whole lot of effort or expense on your part and it may well do some good. But...

2) Don't count on it! When it comes right down to it, what we're really talking about is "the controls the government thinks it already has in place in Mexico.", or elsewhere for that matter. And, despite having some credit hours in history and a few decades of experience with human beings, government and how the world works, some people actually believe that if the government certifies something, then it MUST be good and pure and wholesome and that, if it's not, then someone else is responsible and you can and will get paid for your trouble.

To those people I would like to say  WAAAAAAAAAKE UP!!!! :idea: ...
...all the way! Come fully concious and come to terms with that fact that, you, and not some government functionary, are responsible for making sure that the people with whom you entrust your very own progeny are reliable, kind and honest. Make sure your kids understand this. Save a friend or neighbor some trouble and heartache by sharing this nugget of wisdom with them.

I'm not talking about some esoteric or abstract political view. And I don't mean should when I say must. What I mean is that, regardless of your or anyone else's fond wishes to the contrary, Big Brother is not watching out for your best interest. You must look out for yourself or don't come cryin' ta' me about it. I told ya' so!

The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad.
-- Salvador Dali

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Carey:

--- Quote ---Your suggestion could be applicable IF parents knew their kids were being abused in the facilities WWASP tortures them in.

My experience,I was not aware what was transpiring within teh facilities until after he came home.
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Its your job to know!  There is no excuse for not knowing whether or not your child is safe...especially when YOU have placed them in an institution that holds them against their will.

Anonymous:
You gotta be kidding, Uncle Sam to the rescue of America's youth incarcerated in private (meaning parent-funded) institutions?  Where have you been the past few years as more and more states voted to enact legislation making it easier to try kids as adults and lock 'em up on the taxpayers dime?

 :eek:

Anonymous:
Spots wrote::
State from Tijuana DOES visit regularly. I positively know this. Could be from the 3 weeks continual phone calls between me and Tijuana Consulate, or maybe my 1+ hour conversation when the main consular officer phoned me at home."

We're supposed to believe YOU had anything to do with inspections?  That's funny :rofl: There are many parents in and out of there everyday from 8am until 8 pm.  How are they muffling the screams of the kids you think are being beaten and abused?  It's really not big - do they have underground compound no one knows about.  You've seen too many Stephen King movies or reading way too much fiction - Are you helping Ryan write his script?

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