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Ridge Creek School - Accreditation
Anonymous:
Sorry, meant to say "The people running the program LIED to us,"
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "RobertBruce" ---He's refering to ASR, actually well after Jill began posting here. ASR was doing (probably thanks to John's good friend, murderer Rudy Bentz) the same thing HLA did. Claiming everyone was certified when across the board when it turned out only a single staff member was actually licensed as they claimed to be, and he was apparently never there. John didnt prove any arguments that day, he just stuck his head in the sand again and denied the truth.
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Well lets look recently:
Dysfunction Junction started this thread with the comment:
"Ridge Creek School's website claims that it is academically accredited by SACS and GAC, but a search of those entities reveals that RCS is in fact not accredited by either agency.
It appears the blatant fraudulent advertising continues from Buccellato. Where would a false advertising complaint be properly made in the state of Georgia?"
So DJ was trying to make everyone believe that he investigated Ridge Creek School and found them to be unaccredited (wanted to file petitions and complaints to the state to make it look like he really looked into it) and if I had not challenged that (like I have done many times before) everyone would have assumed that they were not accredited. But the red flags go up every time DJ makes a comment like this and almost every time he is proven to be wrong so finally the truth comes out and wala!!! We find out that Ridge Creek is Accredited and once again we need to dig for the truth to overturn a baseless smear campaign by DJ.
Why not fight agianst these places using the truth and facts? Do you have such little to go on that you need to fabicate stories to attack these places?
Here is a link to facts : (this is how it is done, Bruce)
Link
Ridge Creek/Mountain Brook Academy ACC 7-12 2011
830 Hidden Lake Road
Dahlonega, Georgia 30533
706-867-1720[/quote][/quote]
Anonymous:
It may be before my time on Fornits to which you are referring , however, our research went back to the inception of HLA to seek the truth and there was a clear pattern of unlicensed counselors, uncertified teachers, two unlicensed doctors, etc. which was marketed from HLA's beginning. There were a handful throughout the years, but that was about it.
In the Congressional record, working with the GAO, submitting ALL my documents to back up my statements, you will find starting at page 86 Hidden Lake Academy... other families submitted for Congressional review. The GAO requested report in letter form to Congressman Miller and the Committee, this is my testimony re: Hidden Lake Academy. Again, I stand by my statements, under oath.
[PDF] CHILD ABUSE AND DECEPTIVE MARKETING BY RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS FOR ... File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
JILL OHANESIAN-RYAN,. Jupiter, FL. Plano, TX, April 28, 2008. Hon. GEORGE MILLER, Chairman,. Committee on Education and Labor, Rayburn House Office Building ...
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG.../CH ... 041839.pdf
All documentation was submitted ahead of time to the GAO agents and nothing, repeat nothing, was left out. The rest of it went to the IRS.
Now, let me tell you this, whomever you are, that hides behind The Who, John Reuben and various other names.
No children should be subjected to what transpired at HLA... or on the premises. No owner of any academy or spouse that carries themselves the way Buccellato and Spooner did, belong on the premises of any school. Their personal life is their own, but when 'it' starts hopping over to sexually accosting staff(5 that we know of), pay-offs out of school funds or the now defunct Chapel Fund for Buccellato's indiscretions, bragging of $1,000. male hookers on the premises(alleged by staff, emails, letters) that is a huge problem. "Quirk and Quirk" handled the settlements(payoffs) as they did all his dirty work. Could everyone be lying? Understanding that they could have been called for a deposition with what they turned over, it is highly unlikely. Checks and bank statements don't lie. Do I know their names? Yes. Have I spoken with these people? Two of the victims, numerous staff in areas that could confirm the settlements. All staff stated they would confirm by subpeona, not just in this area, but all other areas, but they feared him and felt they needed to protect their families. The same fear was related to the GAO agents.
Again,the GAO did interview former staff, families confirming what was alleged in the lawsuit and beyond. To quote one agent, "I have handcuffs burning a hole in my pocket". Now again, whether the GAO made recommendations to the justice department, they will not disclose.
Any 'ace' that was sent them, will not be disclosed here either to protect the families.
As I have stated before, where HLA and Buccellato are concerned, you are out of your league and I state this with no disrespect. It is more important that we move forward to assure this does not happen again. As long as I breathe, I will be there watching, as I stated before, "For the Children to Come".
TheWho:
Jill, Like Bruce said it wasnt just HLA it was other programs like ASR etc..... A prime example was the original post which started this thread . All I am saying is be careful what is stated and ask for and check the links and facts that are provided. Dont just take people word for it if they say "so and so" is unlicensed or unaccredited.
Check the facts of what these people are telling and dont take them at face value.
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "Jill Ryan" ---As I have stated before, where HLA and Buccellato are concerned, you are out of your league and I state this with no disrespect. It is more important that we move forward to assure this does not happen again. As long as I breathe, I will be there watching, as I stated before, "For the Children to Come".
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The original post, the inception of this thread, was based on a lie intended to deceive the readers we have all seen that. When you were pursuing the truth about HLA and their lawyers told you that you were out of your league (with no disrespect) would you have backed off? Do you expect the readers to accept deception and lies here on fornits? Should I run away and not continue to expose the truth after you tell me I am out of my league?
I think it is great to move forward with your information but if you are going to base it on lies and deceit (or turn a blind eye towards them) then I cannot agree with you and you are no better than HLA and the lawyers they hired. Just be careful that in your pursuit and “As long as you breathe” you dont become one of them.
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