Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Current HLA Staff
RobertBruce:
Tell us again what HLA was licensed as for the first eleven years, and how many inspections ORS did. You said it yourself oversight is required. Yet without any medical personell at all where was that oversight coming from?
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "RobertBruce" ---Tell us again what HLA was licensed as for the first eleven years, and how many inspections ORS did. You said it yourself oversight is required. Yet without any medical personell at all where was that oversight coming from?
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Bruce, Read the post and then the link to the requirements (which was posted a few times by several people). I doesnt matter what I say or what anyone else says. Try to support your position using the law and facts. We are trying to determine what oversight is needed and how that is defined. Until we understand that (the Requirements)we cant determine if HLA was in violation. Do you see what we are saying?
Anonymous:
I believe we all expected that in this day and age Georgia would have strict laws governing who can dispense prescription medications in Residential Child Care Facilities. What we have discovered, quite painfully and at the expense of our children, is that Georgia is backwards and does not protect the children in their state with simple, concise laws and regulations. We've also discovered that people such as Bucci will exploit every weakness to his advantage to get his greedy paws on a dollar and it will be at the expense of your child's health and well-being.
I specifically asked about the medical staff and how medications were administered/dispensed and was told HLA had a full-time nurse on staff. I was led to believe the full-time nurse was a requirement because of some Georiga law. Boy were we wrong. Unfortunately we didn't find this out until AFTER incidents starting occuring and HLA was called out on the carpet for these incidents. Ah, but disclose an issue at HLA and all of sudden you're labeled as being difficult and not working with the program. What's even more unbelievable is staff there trying to deny medications were dispensed incorrectly or that kids ran out of medications and went without them for days. We were also led to believe that HLA was a LICENSED therapeutic boarding school - the state of Georgia does not license or recognize TBS's. Imagine the shock when we called the state to inquire about licensure and found out the only rules/laws/regulations that applied to HLA could be those that applied to say a tent & awning company because HLA was only registered as a regular business AND, most important to remember, is that HLA fought licensure for years until we all stepped in and threatened legal action against the state for failing to protect these children.
The bottom-line is HLA marketed themselves as having top-notch staff who would provide excellent care and treatment for our children. There was a high expectation from my perspective that HLA would provide what was promised, but they failed miserably. Did they break any laws? I would actually say no because those laws never applied to them because they were never licensed. If anything good has come from this it is the fact that we have helped put measures in place to ensure the safety and well-being of any child who may be placed in one of Bucci's programs. It won't stop there though - that I will promise you.
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--- Quote from: "Guest99" ---What do you want a link to? Call Kit Wallace at DHR/ORS and asked her to send you a copy of the report.
There are reports from Ridge Creek as well in which the kids told the state officials exactly what was going on.
You have been given the POCs to obtain the data; either go get it and get the facts or stop wasting our time with the same moronic question - "Link?"
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Guest99, I have been following your posts. I understand that you were told that a nurse would be distributing the meds and instead an unlicensed person was doing the job. As a parent I would be mad too. I may even pull my child if I had one there. That is why we have been having this conversation. We have researched the laws and found that there was no license required to dispense medication, which surprised me. You only needed a person with a GED with oversight which was not clearly defined. Does this mean a procedure for each med written by the pharmacist? A direct report to a licensed person? Or someone who can read labels off the medication jars? This is where we are at. HLA did have several nurses and a pharmacy technician at various times there.
Was HLA in violation at any one point? Probably, that is what inspections are for. They detect and uncover violations write them up and give the violators time to respond, resolve the issues and implement corrective action. If the school continues to ignore the laws than they lose their license.
But so far there doesnt seem to be any evidence that any laws were broken (on the issue of dispensing drugs).
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Anonymous:
Something else to think about: How corrupt must the state of Georgia and/or Lumpkin County be to allow a business who promoted itself as a Therapeutic Boarding School to operate without any oversight for so many years. Who was paid off in the state or in Lumpkin County to allow this to run status quo for so many years?
RobertBruce:
Several people actually. A few years ago there was a list posted on here of various politicans who Buchi and his family members along with Spoonie had all made large contributions to. Not surprisingly HLA then "earned" (bought and paid for) a commendation from the Georgia Legislature. Maybe someone can dig that up. Shh used to blather on about it all the time.
--- Quote ---Bruce, Read the post and then the link to the requirements (which was posted a few times by several people). I doesnt matter what I say or what anyone else says. Try to support your position using the law and facts. We are trying to determine what oversight is needed and how that is defined. Until we understand that (the Requirements)we cant determine if HLA was in violation. Do you see what we are saying?
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First off there is no 'we', there is just you. Secondly whatever oversight is required (and I for once agree with you. It needs to be clearly defined for the discussion) I'm positive that zero oversight by anyone wouldnt meet the govt standards. Which is exactly what the situation was (or may still be) at HLA.
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