Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Current HLA Staff
TheWho:
Pleeeeeaaaase don’t bring this up again, we went thru this with thewho in painful detail. First of all this is an open forum and no one should be banned. The trolling is difficult to put up with but is the price we all pay for keeping the forum open and unmoderated. Yes, it would be helpful if Robert would take his beef with thewho to another thread instead of destroying yet another topic. But we cant force him or threaten him with being banned.
To Bruce and thewho: please refrain from your bickering in the middle of topics of discussion. Take it elsewhere for the sake of others who post here besides your self.
TheWho:
Here is where we left off:
belive it or not, HLA got very luxurious for a period.
they built 3 new dorms, each with the capacity for around 70 kids. you might have seen the first one, which was a few hundred feet past the academic building. the girl's dorm was pretty luxurious. HUGE common room with twin-story windows and skylights, three floors, and to be honest it beats any college dorm i have ever seen in most categories. one of your old dorms were turned into a counselor building, and the bottom floor of the old academic building which once housed kids was renovated for classrooms. of course, that whole building along with the Admin building burned down, leaving the new academic building which was also a nice facility. they also added a section to the lodge at some point. I dont know how old the gym is, you might have been there for it, was a pretty nice facility compared to the older buildings. it also used to have a rug floor, they replaced that with polished concrete. they also added a bathroom to lower left, and two new dorms at ridge creek. they also built horse stables.
they also built a small townhouse-style development with around 20 housing units where staff lived a few hundred yards down the road. a funny observation: despite being within very easy walking distance from campus, the staff who lived there would still drive their cars to school and park in the parking lot by the gym. wouldn't even carpool.
they accomplished that because for a while HLA had up to 200 students at a time + up to a hundred at ridge creek. even with an almost 1:1 staff/student ratio they were amassing huge amounts of capital. they idiotically dumped all that capital into making the school look nice and handle more students. unfortunately for them they didnt realize that first of all, the land itself cant handle that many people. every summer the water would dry up, we only got to shower once every few days for a timed amount sometimes, and only flush the toilet when we #2. the septic system would overflow even with a hundred or so students, and spill over into the lake. on some days you could smell the septic overflow all over campus, particularly in the mornings. that and the way they were running the school, the type of school it is, doesn't work with that many people. you cant have therapy, immaculate supervision and accountability with that many people no matter how many staff you hire.
alas, STILL no chapel.
RobertBruce:
Ridge Creek came after my time. When I was there they did something called "interventions" which meant basically that a kid was sent out in the woods for an indefinite amount of time, with a limited amount of supplies, depending on the infraction. The kid in question was completly pulled out of school. This was never deemed an issue because academics always came secondary anyway, and teachers were not allowed to fail the students. So then with Ridge Creek, I'm wondering if someone can go into what the educational components of it were.
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Exactly when did this conversation become about supposed guest posts made by a forum member?
The labeled topic is "Current HLA Staff", of which there are a sharply decreasing number (hopefully, soon to be zero).
Congratulations. You've let it derail yet another thread with its infinite whining.
Can't you ban its IP in Apache or something so it gets nothing but "Server not found"?
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AMEN
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LOL
This is what Who does, he derails all serious, productive discussions.
It's sabotage.
Ginger banned him. Psy reinstated him. Ginger says ignore him.
LOL Doesn't work.
Try it. Ignore him when he starts derailing. See what happens.
He'll simply argue with himself or create a fictional character to argue with.
There is no "ignoring him". Not effective.
Ginger and Psy gave him free reign.
If he stalked and spammed either of them to the degree he spams the HLA forum or RB, they may have a
different reaction.
He has rendered Fornits all but useless. Look at this thread. It would be pointless to pick up with
the topic again because anyone coming here to gather information will have stopped reading pages
ago when it was derailed. Another wasted thread. And so it goes.
Anonymous:
^Pessimist?
--- Quote from: "Jill Ryan" ---http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/academ ... ty-members
•Baker, Jim
•Bell, Kristin
•Brown, Trey
•Buccellato, Len
•Klein, Matt
•Smith, Scott
•Stapp, Joe
•Stevens, Hawley
•Sumpter, Walter
•Tanner, Sam
Jill Ryan
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--- Quote from: "guest3" ---Len Buccellato
President and Founder
B.S. Psychology - Fordham University,
M.A. Educational Psychology - University of Georgia, Ph.D. Counseling and Psychological Services - Georgia State University.
Licensed Psychologist in Georgia since 1975
Hopefully not for much longer
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--- Quote from: "guest 9" ---This is good news. Buccellato can now take responsibility according to the Psychology Board and the ORS docs for the guidance of 3 unlicensed people instead of the 12 ,which placed him in ethical violation according to Georgia's Psychology Board statutes.
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--- Quote from: "believe what you want" ---that list is definitely incomplete.
HLA has an infrastructure that must be maintained. Who cooks the food? who does maintenance? night supervision? i know theres no more night staff at the dorms, but surely there has to be at least one person on campus at all times... How about washing sheets? it's illegal for the kids to do it themselves, if they are still washing the entire campus at once. they used to have hick woman w/ a beard sitting around washing the sheets all week. how about administration? finances? coaching?
how exactly are these kids getting a high school education? i see only one person that could be considered a teacher - hawley. sam tanner maybe, but my 11th grade geometry with sam was just a review of 6th grade arithmetic with shapes. and i got to sleep on the floor when i was done with my two minute worksheet every day.
where is the so called "supervision" and "accountability" HLA loves to talk about?
one of these two are true:
1. HLA is lying about their staff, and omitting anyone non-essential, unqualified, or hick-looking.
2. thats really all the staff they have, and the kids are tearing each other to pieces. massive anal hemorrhaging caused by mansausage rape is occurring at night to the weakest links. HLA was bad enough with at least two staff for every fifteen or so kids in any given location. when i was there, there were almost 200 kids and nearly that many staff. are there like five kids left or something? i hope so.
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and how about the mail room? a NURSE? (for giving out the meds and other necessary tasks, duh). how about the dentists office in the back of the gym? or did they sell that equipment? in that case, who drives the kids on medical visits? how exactly do they manage to teach both 8th and 9th graders, along with seniors and post-seniors with that many staff? do they put 8th and 12th graders in the same english class? math class? is there even any schooling going on there? is there even a librarian left? a registrar?
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--- Quote from: "RobertBruce" ---
--- Quote ---I am sure you are right there must be more employees, some places just list their professional staff members. As far as kids not being allowed to wash sheets that must be a Georgia law. We always did laundry when we were growing up and general cleaning. Is there a health hazard associated with doing sheets specifically? Can kids wash other items like their own clothes?
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Except they always listed all the staff in the past. There really isnt a reason to list maintenance staff for the school as the kids are forced to do all the work anyway. As for sheets, during my own incarceration there we always did our own. Not sure why the policy changed, unless some kids just weren't doing it.
--- Quote ---You have to remember that most of these kids had access to a very good education system prior to HLA and refused to even show up. So any parent would be happy to have their kid in a class room even if they just slept on the floor. It has to be better than not being there at all.
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Most of them? I'd like to see a basis for that claim. Further how is the "no fail" in place at HLA conducive to a higher education? How is a kid who leaves and returns to public or private school by any means prepared since he's already so far behind. Even better, how is such a kid prepared for college? Two minute work sheets and then nap time? Not at the college I went to.
--- Quote ---I would guess they are not listing all the employees, plus with the turnover rate it would be a task to keep the web site current. I cant figure out from your post whether you think having a hick (as you call it) doing the sheets and food or having the kids doing it is preferable.
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So what are your thoughts on them not having a nurse now? Still not an issue?
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--- Quote from: "RobertBruce" ---When has Buchi ever cared about state requirements? The only reason he would have changed the policy was if he was forced to, or if it somehow benefited his bottom line. When I was locked up we had washing machines all in the dorms. I'm not sure what was later refered to as "the restriction shack", but we definitely didnt have a pool. There was a tennis court that no one was ever allowed to use. Right next to it was a converted green house that had been used for restrictions until it was decided that was too comfortable, so an open air pavilion was built on the opposite side of the lack where the kids could be kept out in the elements, regardless of weather. Somehow this too was deemed more theraputic.
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--- Quote from: "hehehehehe" ---when i was there, there were two buildings down at the lake.
one was a larger building (~2000sqft) which was originally a dorm, then converted to an indoor pool, then back to a regular building again because the pool was too high maintenance. that building was called the SAC (Student Activity Center) and had a tv, some game tables, some arcade machines, and a jukebox. there was a shack next to it (~300-500 sqft) closer to the tennis court which housed landscaping equipment, tennis equipment, fishing equipment, and the sheets laundry. the pavilion at the lake there was never really used for restrictions, it was used as a lounge area on weekends for the student body, and for events like a watermelon-eating contest. the current pool was built somewhere near the lake where the SAC was, but i'm not sure whether or not and which buildings the pool replaced.
there were three other areas that were used more extensively by restrictions: lower left field, where the stream diversion was built and the kids gradually cleared the field further to the "left" of trees to make room for more field space. problem was they didnt count on the field swamping up sans the trees eleven months out of the year. There was a shack with no insulation - just a plywood box with a roof and windows along with a fireplace, that was located by lower left when taking the trail up to RCI, but making a right around the lake. further down that trail was a pavillion in the woods that was used for restrictions also; both structures were there for isolating the bad kids during grandparents day, graduation, dogwood fest, and any other events or emergencies where members of the 'public' were on campus.
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--- Quote from: "plavix1" ---The problem with HLA is unlicensed persons dispensing narcotic drugs to minors.
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--- Quote from: "RobertBruce" ---
--- Quote ---one was a larger building (~2000sqft) which was originally a dorm, then converted to an indoor pool, then back to a regular building again because the pool was too high maintenance. that building was called the SAC (Student Activity Center) and had a tv, some game tables, some arcade machines, and a jukebox. there was a shack next to it (~300-500 sqft) closer to the tennis court which housed landscaping equipment, tennis equipment, fishing equipment, and the sheets laundry. the pavilion at the lake there was never really used for restrictions, it was used as a lounge area on weekends for the student body, and for events like a watermelon-eating contest. the current pool was built somewhere near the lake where the SAC was, but i'm not sure whether or not and which buildings the pool replaced.
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The building you're talking about was dorm 5 was I was locked up. The shack next to it must be what we called the green house, unless they tore that down and replaced with a shack. At the time there was nothing in there but some benches and a table, it was only used for restrictions. I'm not sure if we're talking about the same pavillion. Unless they moved it, you wouldnt want this place as a lounge area. I know there was a gazebo right on the lake across from the dorm, maybe that's it. This thing was an actual pavillion and it was on the far side of the lake from the buildings and pushed way back in the woods far from the lake. It was where we were all kept while on restrictions.
As to a non licensed person dispensing meds, this has always been the norm at HLA.
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--- Quote from: "Jill Ryan" ---These are questions that should be directed to the managing attonery Nina Edidin at the ORS. Her email: Nina J Edidin < http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/academ ... ty-members
•Baker, Jim
•Bell, Kristin
•Brown, Trey
•Buccellato, Len
•Klein, Matt
•Smith, Scott
•Stapp, Joe
•Stevens, Hawley
•Sumpter, Walter
•Tanner, Sam
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