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try another castle:
I still maintain that nothing cures a bout of bullying more effectively than a sucker punch to the back of the head with a bag of rocks.

If the school or the other parent gets on my kid's case about it? I'll sure as shit go to bat for him/her.

Curious George:
Ursus,

I am not one to strip away individual rights in any form.  I'm a firm believer that those who sacrifice essential liberties for temporary security deserve neither.

My point is that children need to be taught how to handle real life situations that are appropriate for the circumstances, hence, a measured response.  Zero tolerance does not teach a measured responce, i.e. you shouldn't get the death penalty for stealing a gum ball.  In the school setting, a child who stands up for themselves and knocks out a bully should never be suspended, maybe they should get an award.  What is wrong with rewarding good and punishing the bad?

We have a curriculum in school that someone has decided what is best for our children, I'm OK with that as long as freedoms are protected and no-one is usurping my family values, the rest should be taught at home.  The kids can question them all they want and I'm OK with different perspectives and will even instruct my children on what those are.  But I'd prefer to protect my values than have my child subjected to some fundamentalist suicide bomber's or the gangbanger herion dealer down the street.  At least until my children have some idea of a "common sense" moral compass, hopefully developed before they are 18.

However, we don't teach our older children common sense, how to live within your means, how to balance a check book, real conflict resolution, with the last step being self defense. How to look out and protect weaker kids etc etc.  In many public shools, policy is "violence is never an acceptable solution".   I say garbage. Violence, in the only acceptable legal form, self defense, has an ABSOLUTE place in all our lives, hence the reason for the 2nd Amendment.  Otherwise we teach kids it's OK to be a victim, because others will protect you.

This kind of thinking is what leads to more victims.

Don't you think if we taught children how to handle bullies according to real life legally acceptable ways, there would be less bullies in the world?
If we teach all children to look out for the weak and those who cannot defend themselves, what bully would ever want  to bully when 4 or 5 weaker people stand together as a team?

I believe, because there is no true outlet for handling bullies in the school systems today, kids are resorting to desperate means such as shooting up their class mates rather than just boxing it out.

In my schools, grammer and highschool, we were allowed to box it out if we were evenly matched, no-one held a grudge, and then we became freinds instead of plotting against each other, or building bombs in our garages.   Some of my best friends now are people I've fought with as kids.  Testing each others limits is normal, especially for children.

CG

Ursus:
It is my contention that this "Zero Tolerance" policy is actually a veritable boon to programs, as it creates the conditions for getting kids labeled as having dysfunctional behavior, which in turn ultimately gets them recommended for programs.

Zero tolerance neither helps the victim, nor the bully. It crams kids into a very strict code of behavior, and those not fitting the norm stick out in ways that can get them into a pack of trouble, ofttimes not in keeping with the scale of the original "crime." It also leaves over-stressed administrators with the task of using their "discretion" in deeming said seriousness, and enables them to ship difficult kids out of district altogether too easily, in some cases even having them institutionalized against parental wishes. And so it starts.

Ursus:

--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---Anyone care to venture a guess as to WHO founded New Leadership Charter Public School in Springfield, Massachusetts?
--- End quote ---

"New Leadership Charter Public School is a college preparatory school that emphasizes academic achievement, character development, leadership training and community service"[/list]

Hyde School founded Springfield's New Leadership Charter School.

From Joe Gauld's "article" (essay?) "Character Development: A School's Primary Task." in The Wall Street Journal (April, 1992):

We at Hyde are now setting up Hyde public-school models, one of which is slated to open in September in Gardiner, Maine. Similar models are expected to open, probably in Indianapolis, IN, Winston-Salem, N.C., and Springfield, Mass. Each will require a commitment from student, parent and teacher alike to honor Hyde principles at home and at school.

<...snip...>

Hyde defines a basic family as at least "one committed adult and one growing child". We find a mentor for youngsters who want to join but lack a committed parent. Skeptics think most American parents won't accept such a challenge. But in Springfield, Massachusetts, the first city tested for interest in the public-school program, we had 650 preliminary family applications for 150 projected places.[/list]

From one of Joe's articles in Education Week, titled "An Education: Just Do It" (October, 1992):

Will Hyde's concept of education work outside the somewhat greenhouse conditions of a Maine boarding school? We'll soon find out: The first Hyde public school program opened last month in Gardiner, Me., a school system of 2,800 students. A Hyde public school-community model has just been approved for Washington; similar models in Indianapolis; Winston-Salem, N.C.; and Springfield, Mass., are now on the drawing boards.[/list]

Ursus:
Joe Gauld tapped former Hyde School student Joanne Wingood Goubourn to head the job. She appears to have directed the Springfield School for at least 3 years.

Here's her GuideStar profile on a General Information page for Hyde Leadership Public Charter School of Washington DC Inc (which she used to head prior to Hyde-Bronx):

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Chief Executive

Mrs. Joanne Wingood Goubourn

Chief Executive Profile

Mrs. Goubourn, Hyde Leadership's Head of School, is a 1975 graduate of the original Hyde School in Bath Maine, so she is a 30 year veteran of the Hyde process. She completed her ungraduate studies at Wellesley College in 1979 with a degree in Urban Studies,and quickly moved through the management ranks of the U.S. Postal Service. In 1988 she completed a Master's Degree in Human Reource Development at American International College in Springfield, MA and chose to return to the Hyde School in Bath, ME, as a Program Director and English Teacher. In 1993 Hyde chose Mrs. Goubourn to help found and become the Assistant Head of School at the new Hyde Leadership School in New Haven, CT, a school still in existence today. In 1998 she was again tapped to lead when she was offered and accepted the Head of School position at hte New Leadership Charter School in Springfield, MA. Under her lead the school grew from 90 students in 1998 to 250 students in 2001. Her love for and commitment to Hyde convinced her to accept her current position of Head of School position of the Hyde Leadership Public Charter School. She also began a Doctoral program at Howard University in Education Administration. Mrs. Goubourn believes deeply that American education needs what Hyde has to offer, and she plans to make this school a national model for excellence in public education.

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