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Canadian Teen saved from Utah facilities
Anonymous:
Since this kid IS getting sent to Bayfield, maybe it's worth glancing over this facility.
http://www.bayfield.net/About.html
Relying on the website only, it looks better than Provo Canyon. I can't see anywhere about costs so I think it might not be for- profit, they have sex-ed which also caters to gay, bisexual and transgendered youth (which is rare) and they seem to only take children with diagnosed problems and issues tat are causing problems (eg. developmental disorders). They also have special education and accreditted education and some research based therapy and diagnostic tests by, according to them, master's level clincicians and consulting psychiatrists. And it says they have a complaint process.
That being said there's a couple red flags. The bedroom doors and windows are alarmed, there is farm work that I'm fairly sure is mandatory and some of their aims seem a bit vague.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "tryingtohelp" ---Since this kid IS getting sent to Bayfield, maybe it's worth glancing over this facility.
http://www.bayfield.net/About.html
Relying on the website only, it looks better than Provo Canyon. I can't see anywhere about costs so I think it might not be for- profit, they have sex-ed which also caters to gay, bisexual and transgendered youth (which is rare) and they seem to only take children with diagnosed problems and issues tat are causing problems (eg. developmental disorders). They also have special education and accreditted education and some research based therapy and diagnostic tests by, according to them, master's level clincicians and consulting psychiatrists. And it says they have a complaint process.
That being said there's a couple red flags. The bedroom doors and windows are alarmed, there is farm work that I'm fairly sure is mandatory and some of their aims seem a bit vague.
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Thanks for that heads-up, tryingtohelp!
Here's a recent news article which helps explain the above reference to Bayfield Treatment Center:
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The Kingston Whig-Standard
'It's just somewhere to shove this kid': lawyer
Posted By STEVE PETTIBONE, SUN MEDIA
Posted Aug 13, 2009?
The grandmother of a teenaged boy being housed at a youth residential treatment facility in Prince Edward County wants to know why he can't be treated closer to home
The 14-year-old Cole Harbour boy, who was the subject of a recent Supreme Court of Nova Scotia case, suffers from attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and related behavioural problems.
He was recently enrolled at the Bayfield Treatment Centre in Consecon by the Nova Scotia Department of Community Services.
His grandmother -- who cannot be named in order to protect the boy's identity -- said she wants the boy to get help, but she did not expect him to be moved out of the province.
"All we did was ask for help, not for him to be shipped away," she said.
Community Services originally made arrangements for the boy to be treated at a facility in Utah after the Nova Scotia Supreme Court ruled it was permissible to send him there since treatment was unavailable in his home province.
After arrangements at both Cinnamon Hills Youth Crisis Centre and Provo Canyon School fell through, the boy was moved to Bayfield -- a decision Patrick Eagan, the family's lawyer, says shows a definite motive.
"It appears to my clients that (Community Services just wanted him as far away as possible," he said.
"It's just somewhere to shove this kid."
Eagan said his clients are concerned with how little information they are receiving on the treatment the boy is receiving at Bayfield. He also said they know little about what is being planned for the boy's education.
"Whatever they plan to do, we don't really know until September, when he's back in school," he said. "He needs help, and he doesn't need to be hanging around Ontario waiting for school to start."
Eagan said the boy is under the temporary care of the Nova Scotia minister of community services, and, as such, the current arrangement is open-ended. While there is potential for a review hearing sometime around October, he said, the ministry has the right to keep the boy in its care for another year and a half.
"They can keep him in care until he's 16," he said. "Against his will."
The grandmother said contact with the boy since the move to Bayfield has been limited and she and her husband feel cut off from information about him.
"The department of community services will not communicate with us," she said. "They're shutting us out."
Lawyers for the Department of Community Services in Nova Scotia and the CEO at Bayfield could not be reached for comment.
Article ID# 1697699
© 2009 , Sun Media
Ursus:
Comments for the above article:
Post #1 By sirjohneh!, 17 days ago
Typical of family services to shut the family out and their lawyer. There is zero accountability at the hands of ALL CAS workers and that has to stop. They can help kids, but in many cases they do more harm than good and are not held responsible for their actions. It is criminal.Post #2 By Riverman, 17 days ago
I don't mean to be insensitive to the parents but what if it's them that are doing more harm than good?Post #3 By givemeabreakon taxes, 17 days ago
how very true!!sirjohneh!Post #4 By heebas, 17 days ago
Yeah I read about those places, they probably have the kid in some wild sensory deprivation tank and that's why they have limited contact, he's only allowed out once a week for an hour so he doesn't get muscle atrophy.
In all seriousness though, that was not funny because this is not funny,
it really doesn't say much about why he's there. When i was like 12 they said I had ADD and ADHD and they just gave me Ritalin and eventually some other drug. Surely these places aren't just for treating ADHD and behavioral problems, are they?!? I stopped taking the drugs eventually and as I got a bit older I grew out of it. In my case anyway it was more puberty than it was any serious condition. But I can still imagine how much this would suck for a kid, and I know what its like when everyone thinks that your behavioral problems are some Condition or Disorder.Post #5 By cscharlie, 16 days ago
is the transportation for the family back and forth on a regular basis for visitation being paid for? as well as their accomodations while they are out of the province visiting the child, since him being out of the province was not their choice? Cetainly it cannot be in the best interest of the child, no matter what the condition, to be deprived of family contact.Post #6 By richard67, 16 days ago
The fact that the only treatment is 1200 miles from his home is wrong. On the other hand at least they found him some place to go. If it were my child I would be devastated. Literally there is no where to turn when you need help as the Govt keeps closing programs. There are only roughly 30 beds in all of Ont to treat children with addictions. These poor kids do not get help with their disabilities, addictions etc. then wind up in the penal system and we blame them. How about starting to blame the Govt. that lacks the social supports for these children who grow up to be adults with major issues. Put forth money when they are young and have a chance or support them in the penal system . Either way we pay.Post #7 By starfish422, 16 days ago
We have no idea what the home is like that he was taken from - it very well could be in his best interest to be away from them.
Richard67 - I completely agree with money now vs money later - and I would add that it is much easier to bring them up properly than it is to try to "fix" them later.Post #8 By opiniatated, 16 days ago
WOW.
I know for a fact that Bayfaield is a wonderful place for multi problematic boys. This boy is not being tortured or deprived in any way!
You need to ask why the grandparents are so concerned and not his parents, why the NB government is now his legal guardian (he was likely removed form the home), and know that he is getting a good safe caring environment where he is now. Perhaps the grandparents need thier lawyer to make sure they have rights to access, to be able to speak with the home, to be able to contact thier grandson, but likely, they would then have to foot the bill for his treatment and care and thier province won't be doing it for them. It is possible they signed over rights because of that in the first place.
We won't know.. but this article could have gone much further in looking into the situation, maybe even going so far as to speak with the owner or workers at the home who are good wonderful caring people.Post #9 By opiniatated, 16 days ago
What is sad is that there arne't more places like this for placement for children who need it.
© 2009 , Sun Media
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "tryingtohelp" ---Since this kid IS getting sent to Bayfield, maybe it's worth glancing over this facility.
http://www.bayfield.net/About.html
Relying on the website only, it looks better than Provo Canyon. I can't see anywhere about costs so I think it might not be for- profit, they have sex-ed which also caters to gay, bisexual and transgendered youth (which is rare) and they seem to only take children with diagnosed problems and issues tat are causing problems (eg. developmental disorders). They also have special education and accreditted education and some research based therapy and diagnostic tests by, according to them, master's level clincicians and consulting psychiatrists. And it says they have a complaint process.
That being said there's a couple red flags. The bedroom doors and windows are alarmed, there is farm work that I'm fairly sure is mandatory and some of their aims seem a bit vague.
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Here's the biggest red flag: Bayfield Treatment Centres utilizes Attachment Therapy. One could call it ... "CALO of the North."
One possible difference: there are allegedly a lot of degree'd professionals involved (yet none save CEO Dr. Larry S. Sanders are listed on the website, at least that I could find). Perhaps they are needed for all that data collection to be done appropriately. Not so sure that some of those questions can be legitimately quantified, but maybe that's just me...
Ursus:
Here's another mention of this kid... Also some discussion highlighting the appalling state of affairs for troubled youth in Canada's Province of Nova Scotia. Many of the same points are made ... as in analogous discussion in the U.S.A.
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Nowhere to turn
Some provinces are sending troubled kids as far away as Utah for rehabilitation
by Rachel Mendleson on Friday, August 7, 2009 5:00pm MacCleans
Photo: Jaret Belliveau
After months of battling social services to keep her grandson close to their Nova Scotia community, Gloria learned from a voice mail message that she had lost. The recording, left on July 6, informed her that in a few days, the 14-year-old, who has severe emotional and behavioural difficulties, would be sent to a residential treatment facility near Trenton, Ont., more than 1,500 km away from home. Of immediate concern, however, was that she'd have to wait until the next morning to find out how long he'd be gone, or when she'd have to say goodbye.
Gloria has raised Nathan, who was abandoned by both parents, since he was four. Last October, his impulsive behaviour, drug use and habitual running away prompted her to temporarily give up custody, thinking the province "would put him some place where he would get help," she says. Along with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, he is suspected of having an alcohol-related neurodevelopmental disorder. But Nathan continued to run and get himself deeper into trouble. Within months, he was shuffled through six placements with foster families and in group homes, and racked up a slew of criminal charges. Nova Scotia determined that neither it—nor she—could meet his needs, and decided he should go to Cinnamon Hills, a private treatment facility in Utah, where it had sent a number of youth with similar issues. When all else fails, provincial governments are often willing to dispense huge amounts of money to ship the most critical cases to residential treatment facilities far from home.
Outraged, Gloria, whose name and that of her grandson have been changed, poured thousands of dollars into legal services to fight the decision, but the judge upheld the ruling. By then, her concern had become about more than the distance: it emerged that a former Cinnamon Hills worker, Joy Lynette Andrews, was facing charges relating to an alleged sexual relationship with a 16-year-old resident. (The 34-year-old pleaded not guilty last month.) Though Nathan didn't end up going to Utah (he was deemed inadmissible to the U.S.), the alternative of Trenton has left Gloria only marginally less desperate. "He doesn't need to be going where he's going," she says. "That child needs to be loved." (Days after his arrival in Trenton, Nathan ran away. He was later returned by police.)
Of the roughly 1,700 kids in the care of Nova Scotia's Community Services Department, more than 98 per cent are placed in foster families and group homes within the province. But for those who require extensive treatment for complex emotional and behavioural difficulties, says Rickcola Slawter, youth duty council for the province's legal aid, "there's really nothing here." Though a long-term residential treatment centre is in the planning stages, funding has yet to be secured. Currently, the only option is Wood Street, a locked-door facility in Truro for short-term stabilization. So for now, when a longer-term solution is required, Community Services casts the net further afield. Last year, 25 youth were placed in treatment facilities elsewhere in Canada and the U.S. Since 2004, 20 kids have gone to Cinnamon Hills. According to Vicki Wood, director of child welfare for the department, the tuition—$114,000 annually—is comparable to that of Nova Scotia programs, but "the range of specialists [at Cinnamon Hills] would far outstrip anything that we could offer here." As for the allegation of mistreatment, she says, "We have absolutely no knowledge of substantiated abuse," adding that in child welfare cases, the burden of proof "is much lower than for a criminal test." And though Wood acknowledges that the 5,000 km between Halifax and St. George, Utah, presents a challenge for families, she insists subsidized visits and regular phone calls can bridge the gap: "It's the constant and regular contact that's important, not the distance over it."
This explanation is not good enough for Bernard Richard, the ombudsman in New Brunswick, which also occassionally sends troubled kids out of the province. Struck by how many complaints he was receiving about inadequate services for kids with complex mental health needs, Richard, who is also the province's child and youth advocate, dug up the files of seven such cases. His resulting 2008 report, "Connecting the dots," chronicles the failure of a system that bounced these kids between foster families, group homes, hospitals and jail without providing appropriate treatment. In one instance, a 13-year-old boy was kept in the province's youth detention centre for several weeks in 2005, not due to committing a crime, but rather because "there was nowhere else to send him." As a young adult, he was later among three of the seven who were sent to Spurwink, a highly specialized treatment residence in Portland, Maine, where the annual cost of comprehensive services ranges from $125,000 to $500,000 per person. Says Richard, "I fail to be convinced that we can't do this locally." The 48 recommendations he came up with push hard for community-based treatment options. The idea, he says, is to give these kids the stability and help they so desperately need—long before they require a half-million-dollar solution.
Gauging the effect on kids of being moved far from home is difficult, but anecdotal evidence suggests it is often significant. John Mould, who is the child and youth advocate in Alberta, says youth in care sent from Nunavut and the Northwest Territories, where treatment options are scarce, can "feel like they've been forgotten. They don't know how and when they'll get home." While Alberta almost never resorts to out-of-province placements for its own kids, the distance between rural communities and treatment programs can lead to similar feelings of isolation.
According to Moncton psychologist Charles Emmrys, this is "a ridiculously expensive system that does not work." He calls the widespread practice of removing the most damaged kids from their communities "a quiet crisis," and is part of a small group of advocates pushing for a different solution. That facilities, rather than families, remain the default placement for those who are most at risk is, he says, "one of the greatest injustices in society right now." In an impassioned plea to a New Brunswick government-commissioned mental health task force earlier this year, Emmrys argued instead that placing professionals in communities, investing in biological families, and significantly increasing the support—and compensation—foster parents receive would be "revenue neutral at worst." But more importantly, he says, it's what's been proven successful. Unlike residential facilities, which effectively sentence kids to a life in institutions, the family model, though considerably more "messy," gives them the continuity and connectedness they need, he says. "The 'there is no place' argument is simply an attestation to the fact that planners did not do their work."
Still, the reality of just how difficult it is to access children's mental health resources on their own means that some families would jump at the chance to have the province seek out treatment for their son—even it required sending him to Utah. In the course of her legal aid work, Slawter routinely hears from parents who've pressed charges against their own child, believing that "if they bring him before the court, he can be ordered to get treatment." Ian Manion, executive director of Ontario's Provincial Centre of Excellence for Child and Youth Mental Health, says that because resources are in such short supply "right along the continuum," early intervention is rare. And despite the best intentions of child welfare, by the time kids' mental health issues are identified, many have already turned to drugs or become tangled up in the criminal justice system. The effect: "You're constantly dealing with the deepest end of the pool, which is the most specialized, most expensive way of doing business," he says.
For most of Nathan's life, his grandmother has been fighting for him. At two, Gloria spotted him on the side of the road, in the arms of a stranger. "I stopped that car and jumped out," she says. Apparently, his father had handed him over and walked off—as it turned out, for good. And when his mother, who had taken him to live in Vancouver, lost custody, Gloria ran up her phone bill "so high I couldn't afford it," she says, "but I found my grandson."
However, when she finally got word from social services that he would likely be in Ontario for a year, it was her emotions, not mettle, that came to the fore. "When he comes back, we're all strangers," she says. "It's really sad for this child."
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