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Hidden Lake Academy - ORS Reports
Troll Control:
No, you never used the word "speculate." You said there was "dramatic improvement."
What hasn't been explained is that the reports online are only a summary which is more or less 5% of the total volume of documents used to create THOSE SUMMARIES. So maybe 320 pages is a good guess for those three reports.
However, the incident treports are not posted online, so speculating about them is really just guessing. If you look at the online reports from 2005 to 2007 you will see that those online reports represent only about .01% of the total documents available by request.
So, what The Who is doing is two-fold. He's trying to say that what's posted online represents 5% of the total documents, but that's no where near accurate. He also is claiming "dramatic improvement" based on his totally false numbers.
He also keeps calling "inspection reports" "incident reports" which is also totally false. And he doesn't mention that HLA flunked 100% of the random inspection items.
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---No, you never used the word "speculate." You said there was "dramatic improvement."
What hasn't been explained is that the reports online are only a summary which is more or less 5% of the total volume of documents used to create THOSE SUMMARIES. So maybe 320 pages is a good guess for those three reports.
However, the incident treports are not posted online, so speculating about them is really just guessing. If you look at the online reports from 2005 to 2007 you will see that those online reports represent only about .01% of the total documents available by request.
So, what The Who is doing is two-fold. He's trying to say that what's posted online represents 5% of the total documents, but that's no where near accurate. He also is claiming "dramatic improvement" based on his totally false numbers.
He also keeps calling "inspection reports" "incident reports" which is also totally false. And he doesn't mention that HLA flunked 100% of the random inspection items.
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I read back and could not find where he called the inspection reports "Incident reports". That came from you. and as it was explained TheWho didnt come up with the 5 % another poster did. A guest mentioned that what is posted online represents only about 5% of the total documents. TheWho just did the math which came out to be 320 pages vs 3,000 pages which is a dramatic improvement from the previous years. This isnt anyones opinion its just volume amounts.
If someone else comes along and want to change it to 0.01% then fine, but there should be a way to support this.
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---5% of 320 pages equals 16 pages. So there have been 304 pages of incident reports over the past 2 years compared with 3,000 pages over the previous 2 years.
Either way you cut it there is some evidence that the place is coming around. Maybe they will go under but at least we can see that the incidences have dropped off tremendously and they are starting to put an effort in to reduce them.
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here you go. you said "incident reports" and then denied you said it. what a liar. you also say "304 pages" here, "320 pages" elsewhere and "100" as well. which ones are lies and which ones are true? can't all be true.
thewho is lying like a rug and never mentions the fact that hla failed 100% of the inspection items in the inspection, not incident, reports.
why the need to lie and say you didn't say those things? you already look terrible, so a few more lies doesn't increase that notion, so be a man and own up to what you say.
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "Guest" --- And he doesn't mention that HLA flunked 100% of the random inspection items.
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I guess you are not familiar with reading state inspection results. The licenses study and relicensure study only reported a few findings 6 or so line items I believe it was. I would bet they were compliant in well over 90% of the areas covered (Thats why they are still licensed within the state of Georgia). Reading thru the report even in some of the areas in which they were found to be in noncompliance they showed evidence that the practices were being done and/or completed.
Keep in mind that the ORS is a state agency and they need to justify their existence. If they didnt find discrepancies during their inspections then higher ups would feel that they are not looking hard enough (doing their jobs) or that their services are not needed or adding value. Those reading who are familiar with state inspections will understand this.
Troll Control:
not true. every item inspected failed. not a single item was passed. go back and read for comprehension. show me where they inspected an item and the conditions were met in all cases. every single item inspected failed and the failure rates ranged from 15%-100%.
but this still doesn't cover what you claimed before - that these are incident reports. these were just inspections, but hla failed every single inspection item.
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