Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Seed Discussion Forum
This forum, Now and then
Anonymous:
Cool, nice meeting you I am new, I bet it seems you were gone forever, lol, question, because I am new, are you a Barker fan, and either way, I will still love to see the pictures, glad someone is doing something fun with their lives, and hope you had a good time.
GregFL:
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OK. So what is your definition of a forum as a success?
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The prior forum.
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Example: When I came to this forum nearly everybody viewed parents as intrinsically misguided and evil for sending their kids to program. Over time, that has changed significantly as posters have been exposed to information regarding exactly how parents are fooled, how thought reform works, et
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Your contributions notwithstanding, this is not true. As an example, 9 years ago we had a computer converance with a founder of the Straight and no one even suggested he was evil. Misquided maybe, but hell they all were. There are still those today, some on this forum right now, who think they are evil people and somehow were immune to the processes.
In addition, we were exporing thought reform and how it works almost ten years ago.
--- Quote --- I'd like to think the forum as a whole learns, and I think that can only truly happen when nobody interferes with the "thought process"... even with the best of intentions. Sure, it can be harsh, but i you can wade through the BS, there are a lot of gems on this forum an a lot of real discussion.
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And someone is always interfering with the thought process when people take the focus off the subject and start threatening others, insulting their families, and generally purposely ruining the conversation. You seem to imply purity of conversation exists when no rules of engagement are established. You ignore the totality of human nature when you do so.
Also, sure you can wade thru the bullshit if you can take the pain. Many people won't/can't and they leave the conversation. There is a growing list of them. As trolls take their place, the forum becomes more unruly.
--- Quote ---I was thinking in the car today. I find it sad that so many people no longer seem able to absorb and process unfiltered information on their own... they want some moderator to filter it into an easily digestible piece of text. well... there is nothing about this industry that is easily digestible and I think filtering out the muck takes the authenticity out of the discussion. As it is, i feel this is a pure snapshot of the troubled teen industry with all the crazy and fallout preserved on both sides.
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You preface your sentences with "I feel". We both have subjective opinions, no?
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--- Quote ---Just please if you have the time archive the forum at the point I left, and rename the new forum "I hate the seed and dare you to come in here". That would be more honest.
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No, it it would not be honest since anybody can post anything here... .
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No, it would be more honest. What you have now is a blended conversation. Archiving the old moderated forum at the point it stopped being moderated and starting the new one from there would make it clear to all which conversation they were in. This is unprecendented in Fornits history, and I understand the request would take some work, but I would appreciate it in light of the years I spent nurturing the former conversation.
And In conclusion I would like to say thank you Psy for being the admin of fornits. You have brought a lot to the table and it is guys like you that will bring this topic forward. I don't have to always agree with you to respect you.
GregFL:
BTW, please excuse any formatting errors. Something is wrong when the paragraph gets below a certain point it is very hard to see and type. Is this some sort of bug?
psy:
--- Quote from: "GregFL" ---BTW, please excuse any formatting errors. Something is wrong when the paragraph gets below a certain point it is very hard to see and type. Is this some sort of bug?
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I don't see any formatting errors. It might be your browser. Which browser are you using? Firefox 3.5.? here.
psy:
--- Quote from: "GregFL" ---There are still those today, some on this forum right now, who think they are evil people and somehow were immune to the processes.
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Sure there are, but you don't help those people to understand by shutting them up and say "you can't express that opinion". You try to influence them through reason, information sharing, etc... and if they choose not to accept it, it's still a valid opinion. Just because you and I might understand how staff were influenced and so forth doesn't mean that's necessarily the truth... its' just our beliefs and others should be free to feel the staff were demon possessed if they so choose.
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