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Anonymous:
Jackie.. Who said Elan was a cakewalk? The point is: get the fuck over it! Are you going to spend the rest of your life sniveling about Elan, or are you going to let it go?
I dont want your answer because its always the same, somewhere conveiniently in the middle of Wackie and fucking ludicrous.

Was I supposed to be offended by the "real estate" comments? Im proud of my accomplishments, are you?
(this doesnt mean squeezing out puppies Jackie, this means accomplishemnts that take more than one braincell and two sperm cells)

Paul St.John Who asked you? How and why would I throw my marine corp experience in anyones face?
The point is, Marines and prison are 10x the brutallity that Elan ever was or will be. Ever see anyone succesfully sue either for "abuse"?

Sorry to be so humiliatingly blunt, but you folks are barking up the wrong tree if you think ELan will ever be held monetarily responsible for "crimes against (fucked up) children"

Elan should get a thank-you note from all of us for taking all those assholes off the street for a year or two.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---Paul, heres the skinny. When I was Naive enough to think Elan was the source of my troubles as an adult, I was part of a group of 12 other idiots who hired some outstanding attorneys. They came to the conclusion that theres no chance Elan will ever be held accountable for thier actions, (even the alledged tactics that still make you pee your bed at night thinking about.) Why? aside from the fact that the residents were the perps of the alledged abuse...CREDIBILITY dumbass.


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Bullshit, bro, and watch who you call a dumbass, spouting your fucking pessimistic bullshit.  The residents, firts off, were not always the perps, but some times.  Secondly, does it take brain surgeoin to see, that the residents were not at root cause?  Third, the residents were not the ones being payed to deliver a service, which was not deliverred.  That is fraud.  Credibilty?  ....

What?  You are not a credible witness?

Are you going to tell me that I am not?

Paul

Anonymous:
One more thing.. Let your brain try this on for size..

Can you see that there is a clear cut difference between being " naieve enough to think that Elan is responsible for your problems", and acknowledging (take this slow now) .. that specific acts and crime were commited, reguardless of outcome?  .. They happenned!


Paul

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2003-08-18 18:09:00, Anonymous wrote:

Paul St.John Who asked you?


It's a public forum.  By posting here, you openned up your writing to the scrutiny of any who wish.


 How and why would I throw my marine corp experience in anyones face?
The point is, Marines and prison are 10x the brutallity that Elan ever was or will be.

The Marines are the Marines!  Elan was meant to be a cure.  It further worsenned the condition.  A doctor would be sued for this .. No?




 Ever see anyone succesfully sue either for "abuse"?




Well, I actually do recall a certain movie, where criminal charges successfully pressed, but whatever.

Besides, these things are more vulnerable then the Marines.  The Marines serve a function, and people know what the deal is.  And today, whether or not you join the Marines is on a voluntary basis.


Boot camp is also shorter then a stay at Elan, and everybody knows what boot camp it.  It is glorified.. It is for people who want a challnge.

These rehab centers, are bullshit frauds that hide behind aultruism, and as a business man, if you cannot agree with what I am saying here, then I would be suprised.
It's a waste of this world's time, and it works in reverse, and effects every area of this society.  It also effects the minds of tons of children negatively... fucks up people.. You say, " Fuck them.. Then they are not strong"  I say, " Fine!  You can feel that way, and think that way, and good for you on your great virties of strength.. All the s harm is being done to people that NEED NOT BE DONE"  ..

Paul St. John




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Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2003-08-18 18:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
Elan should get a thank-you note from all of us for taking all those assholes off the street for a year or two.


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You're a cynical asshole!

Paul St. John

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