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John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA

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RobertBruce:
Whooter, you still haven't answered the question: What do you consider to be abuse?

RobertBruce:
While you're pondering that look over this:


--- Quote ---As a former HLA staff member (counseling staff) I can say with certainty that the "restrictions diet" did indeed exist and was comprised of the items listed by RB. Several other staff members (including Chris Allen, who was pretty high on the food chain) have stated it outright on this board and concur with RB's assessment that it was comprised of what he enumerated and that it was WRONG and UNETHICAL. Your claims, FJ, don't pass the smell test, as this issue has been admitted many times before by several staffers and even Suzanne Gray, a nearly blind HLA supporter, who again verified that there was a "restrictions diet" that she saw administered to children first hand. Sorry, FJ, but your claims don't jive with reality.

I personally have seen incidents of staff-on-child abuse on several occasions and reported it up the chain where it was propmtly buried and I was told I didn't "understand the program and how it works."

I have made several reports to ORS and CPS and finally, after several YEARS of dogged persistence those claims, and those of others, those reports were properly investigated at HLA (came in with a warrant) and at Ridge Creek (normal ORS investigation) and the result is that HLA was found to be acting outside the law and is now forced into being licensed and Ridge Creek was cited for thirty some odd violations INCLUDING taking HLA "restrictions kids" without paperwork and providing them with INADEQUATE NUTRITION, amongst other neglectful/abusive/illegal acts.

So, FJ, huff and puff all you want, but ORS' violations sheet from RC is as long as your arm and documented fact. HLA was found to be providing services ILLEGALLY and will now have to be licensed as a result. And here you are wanting readers to believe this happened in a VACUUM. You're a dissembler and a prevaricator - that's not namecalling, it's an objective, professional assessment of your nonsense and lies. The preponderance of evidence contraindicates the whimsical nonsense you are posting here - it's fact and it's public record

Go peddle that garbage elsewhere.

How does lying and manipulating to protect known child abusers square with being a "Christian," I wonder? I suppose it's just dandy with you in your materialist quest to earn money from childrens' suffering, but you also will be judged in this life and the next. Good luck with that. Bring an asbestos suit! You're going to need it...
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TheWho:
We talked about the restriction diet years ago Brucie.  If you look back on the posts you will see that HLA addressed this long ago.  But what we are looking for is evidence of starvation.  Starvation is the most severe form of malnutrition.  Emerging from this would take a few days of hospitalization.  There should be records to support your allegations. Bruce. Unless you made this all up.

Bruce talked about this and being forced into hard labor.  The insurance company paid for the fire damages so there was no sign of arson.

Now, when can we expect your posts to be linked up?  I have done this twice in the past without conditions.  Be a man and get the job done.  Then come back and tell us when it is done...you have 3,275 posts as of this one.  What is it that you are trying to hide?

RobertBruce:

--- Quote ---Now, when can we expect your posts to be linked up? I have done this twice in the past without conditions. Be a man and get the job done. Then come back and tell us when it is done...you have 3,275 posts as of this one. What is it that you are trying to hide?
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Not a thing Peter. You somehow keep missing my offer. Pick any guest post you think might be me. If you're right what do you have to lose? On the other hand if I'm right and I havent been guest posting, then there's nothing to link up is there? Either way you've seen my request made on multiple occasions. So go ahead and pick a post so we can move forward to you linking yours up.

RobertBruce:
While you're dodging that consider my other question.

Are you genuinely interested in learning the truth about HLA, or are you just going to play your usual games?

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