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Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
Help them how?  Aspen obviously didn't help Mike Reuben, yet his father insists on shilling for the very programs that not only didn't help, but more than likely contributed to his despair.  To subject a truly "troubled" child to the kinds of attack methods and LGAT psycho-babble sessions that Aspen uses is like pouring gasoline on a fire.  Hell, Aspen even stated that they provide no treatment so why send someone who honestly IS troubled into a mindfuck like LGAT attack "therapy" sessions that are specifically designed to break a kid down.....yanno, for their own good.  ::)

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Its very clear to his father and anyone else that his time at ASR helped him very much.  He moved on to become very productive after leaving ASR.  You should read the kids Bio, Anne.  I think you sometimes rely too much on what other posters here write.



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RobertBruce:
John, John, John, here you are yet again playing your games. No your son didn't benefit from his time locked up in ASR. Despite the fact that you refuse to recognize it, he killed himself because of you. He didn't benefit from any of it, and he's only further proof of the ineffectiveness of this industry you love so much.

That being the case it looks like we're back to where we were last week. You have 24 hours to either back up your claims regarding me, or retract them. One minute after and another email goes out. I'll get back to you on who it's going to this week.

Joel:
Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010

RobertBruce:

--- Quote from: "Joel" ---
--- Quote from: "RobertBruce" ---John, John, John, here you are yet again playing your games. No your son didn't benefit from his time locked up in ASR. Despite the fact that you refuse to recognize it, he killed himself because of you. He didn't benefit from any of it, and he's only further proof of the ineffectiveness of this industry you love so much.

That being the case it looks like we're back to where we were last week. You have 24 hours to either back up your claims regarding me, or retract them. One minute after and another email goes out. I'll get back to you on who it's going to this week.
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There are people who fly off the handle half cocked and blame programs/parents for children for killing themselves without looking at the whole picture.   :D
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Whatever the picture is doesnt change the fact that ASR proved in effective for John's son.

DannyB II:

--- Quote from: "RobertBruce" ---
--- Quote from: "Joel" ---
--- Quote from: "RobertBruce" ---John, John, John, here you are yet again playing your games. No your son didn't benefit from his time locked up in ASR. Despite the fact that you refuse to recognize it, he killed himself because of you. He didn't benefit from any of it, and he's only further proof of the ineffectiveness of this industry you love so much.

That being the case it looks like we're back to where we were last week. You have 24 hours to either back up your claims regarding me, or retract them. One minute after and another email goes out. I'll get back to you on who it's going to this week.
--- End quote ---

There are people who fly off the handle half cocked and blame programs/parents for children for killing themselves without looking at the whole picture.   :D
--- End quote ---


Whatever the picture is doesnt change the fact that ASR proved in effective for John's son.
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Are we not supposed to do this anymore here, why are you talking about another persons son for anyway ( dead son). What ever rational you have is just plain wrong, Robert.

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