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John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
Anne Bonney:
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--- Quote from: "John D. Reuben" ---"In 2004, when I found out Michael had drug problems, I founded Saving Teens in Crisis Collaborative to help disadvantaged youths participate in programs too expensive for them."
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John, when you discovered Mike had a drug problem, instead of founding STICC to help other kids, you should have supported your son by getting him medically-based treatment for his drug problem. Why would anyone faced with this situation start a business instead of focusing on their own child's problem? Don't you see that your refusal to get directly involved in Mike's life is what drove him to drugs in the first place? Then your solution to this was to have him locked up instead of put into scientifically proven therapy?
John, is this one of the "STICCy results that last a lifetime"? I guess it is if "lifetime" means "22 years."
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This marketing spin makes me nauseous. We're talking about HUMAN BEINGS here, John. I know the conscienceless, like yourself, see children as commodities, but this is WAY out of line. You disgust me, sir.
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Of course you are nauseous. That is because you are weak and lack foresight like most people. See the problem is you miss the bigger picture. You think small and think problems can be solved by hugging people. People and kids dont need hugs they need solutions, they need to know someone is in control and can make them feel safe. Most parents jump in and try to save their child by getting involved in their lives. But the truth is it is too late at this point to save them by this approach because they have traveled too far down the path. The parents should have been more involved all along. So instead of taking the road everyone else was taking another option was to start a business around the problem. This way you not only get help for your child but you find you are able to raise money for other kids to be placed and after the smoke settles 2 things occur:
1. It doesn’t cost a dime for treatment and
2. You can actually reverse the flow and have a few coins end up back in your pocket to boot.
You need to always keep a level head and look for opportunity when others are panicking. This is key and is the Hallmark of successful people. Whenever something is going terribly bad try to think about how you can profit by it and turn it around into something good. I have always been a firm believer that there exists a silver lining in every situation. It is our jobs to find it and utilize it or someone else will.
As far as trying to find something scientifically proven, that is hogwash. By the time any good set of studies are completed the treatment is outdated and people have moved on to something more "leading edge". Hell they still cant figure out how bees fly but that doesnt prevent us from enjoying the honey.
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Truly disgusting. I've said before, if Whooter is in fact John Reuben, there isn't a hell torturous enough for him. Profiting off the back of your dead child who, at the very least, wasn't helped at all by the program(s) he was sent to and more than likely (especially since it was an Aspen program that uses attack therapy to break the kids down) contributed to the feeling of desperation enough that suicide became his 'salvation' is truly sickening. Literally sickening.
Children are not commodities. They are not ours to "control". Our job is not to mold them into what we want them to be, but to help them realize their own hopes and dreams, not ours for them.
Anne Bonney:
I KNEW it and called it! Marketing.....no wonder he's so good at the spin.
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--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---Dad helps others after son's struggle with addiction
By Kathy Uek/Daily News staff
The MetroWest Daily News
Posted Sep 24, 2008 @ 01:13 AM
Last update Sep 24, 2008 @ 04:26 PM
SUDBURY —
Many people don't talk about the struggle over addiction.
Michael Reuben, 22, a successful sales professional, musician and artist, did. He also talked about his recovery and his day-to-day struggle to fight a drug relapse.
The Sudbury native died from a heroin overdose Sunday. After Reuben's death notice - which told of his addiction - was published, total strangers called to speak about the struggles of their addicted brothers, mothers, sons or themselves.
"I got so many e-mails telling me how courageous we are for even admitting this," said Reuben's father, John, of Sudbury.
People identified with Michael's life. "One man called to say, 'I've been sober for 45 years and I'm still struggling,"' said Michael's aunt Catherine Reuben.
"This isn't a kid who died in some shooting gallery surrounded by addicts," said his father. "That wasn't him. When people think of heroin addiction, they think of someone living this horrible dysfunctional life completely clouded by drugs. For most, like Michael, it's a battle against relapse. When Michael wasn't relapsing, he was living a normal life. He was a kid taking accountability for the disease, managing his life and supporting himself."
Reuben worked as a sales executive in Prescott, Ariz., for Lincoln-based Vendisys, a marketing firm his father owned. "He was one of our top performers dealing with high-level executives and working long hours. He had a lot going for him."
Michael was a good student, maintaining a 3.5 grade point average at Lincoln-Sudbury Regional High School until he got into drugs. Reuben's troubles with drugs began in the middle of his senior year with drinking, then marijuana and ultimately progressing to intravenous heroin, his father said. He left school before graduation and received his GED, said his father. His drug addiction progressed to intravenous heroin.
"In 2004, when I found out Michael had drug problems, I founded Saving Teens in Crisis Collaborative to help disadvantaged youths participate in programs too expensive for them.
"My son was in this situation and I knew I could only do so much," said John Reuben. "I used whatever resources and talents I have to help others."
Since losing his son, after the anger, anguish and remorse, John Reuben has poured himself into his nonprofit organization to provide resources to families, who fight a similar battle. He does it "to get something positive out of this tragedy and let people know this happens in fortunate and unfortunate families, in Malden, Somerville, Sudbury and Los Angeles," he said.
And he and his family remember the essence of Michael. "He had very good insight and a way of relating to people so they felt comfortable and could tell him anything," said John Reuben. "When Michael talked to you, he gave you his full attention and listened intently. I'm devastated he's gone. There's a hole in my heart that will never come close to being filled."
When his aunt Cathy thinks of Michael, she thinks of his dry wit and the fantastical places and creatures he painted.
Michael Joshua Reuben leaves his brother, Max, his grandmother and several aunts, uncles and cousins, including the Reuben/Glanzman families of Somerville and the Frias family of Hudson.
Memorial services are incomplete.
Memorial donations may be made to Save Teens in Crisis Collaboration, P.O. Box 441363, West Somerville, MA 02144.
Copyright © 2009 GateHouse Media, Inc.
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grapeape30:
::puke:: :jawdrop:
Anne Bonney:
I know....pretty fucking sick, huh?
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---I KNEW it and called it! Marketing.....no wonder he's so good at the spin.
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John Reuben has a loooong history of sales and marketing experience. From Correlsense's website:
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John David Reuben, VP of Sales and Marketing
Mr. Reuben manages worldwide sales operations for Correlsense. John Reuben has more than 20 years of sales, operations and management experience at global software and technology companies offering enterprise-level solutions. Prior to joining Correlsense, Mr. Reuben was vice president of sales for Prolify, a Netanya, Israel business process management software developer. He also held the position of vice president of sales and marketing at Kintana, a provider of IT Governance software and helped grow that company from $0-24M in less than three years. He was also a worldwide sales director at Oracle Corporation and founded one of their first application regions. John also held sales and sales management positions at Andersen Consulting, iSpheres, and System Software Associates. He holds a B.A. from the University of Massachusetts. In 2004, John founded Saving Teens In Crisis Collaborative (http://www.savingteens.org), a non-profit organization formed to assist troubled teens and their families struggling with substance abuse and other emotional issues. John manages this as a volunteer.
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