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Class Action Filing
Anonymous:
bump
Stripe:
Stack,
Here's one of the many problems with a class action in a U.S. state or federal court: There is no existing entity, with money, that can compensate for damages or that can be punished with punitive damages. Illegal actions by officers and directors will pierce the corporate protection veil and subject the corporate evil-doers to personal liability. That assumes any case filed would get beyond a motion to dismiss or a motion for summary judgment. Also, the suit would have to name "everyone and his brother" to actaully be an effective tool.That means everyone - including the staff members/Sgt. Schultz types who claim they "knew nothing," successor programs and the program directors, their staff members, etc.
As for the money, a dissolving 501(c)(3) like The Seed is required under the Internal Revenue Code to donate its holdings to one or more 501(c)(3) corps. upon dissolution. It would be possible to trace the charitable money, but to what end? If the blood money went to successor drug programs, then by all means it should be yanked. But if it actually ended up doing some good, what is the current social benefit of stripping funds from charity that actually helps people? The place is closed so there's not much by way of injunctive relief, either.
Not saying this could not be done, just thinking.
Peace out.
Stripe
Anonymous:
stripe, your considerations are excellent.
however, i doubt barker took any of the proceeds he had and used them for other npo's or programs mentioned. i'm certain there could be a showing he co-mingled those funds with his personal assets, through tracing those funds.
also, in a class - you need 40 participants. we have that already.
but, i don't think anyone is interested in money - they are interested in justice.
its more the message to existing programs that are killing kids. and they are in fact, killing kids.
remember the old laidlaw case - laidlaw was out of business when it lost that matter. there are a myriad of cases where tracing funds were recovered, after the corp. failed.
here - just putting barker back out on the street -- the place he started when he came to so. fla. would be a victory. it would be nice to see that ft. lauderdale condo up for auction.
i doubt anybody is interested in proceeds.
but it would be nice to have 3 victory parties. one at the old tropical park location, one at the old blimp hangar location, and one at the old highway 84 location.
of course, he would probably be dead before this all happened, but it is a nice thought.
Anonymous:
I think that's a lovely idea, I for one could care less about profit, if I did I would have done something long time ago, fact is there are thousands of kids out there today that need our help to become free again, profit is something those fools were into, think the fact that the bastard would be where he started is grand, likes this a lot, Peace stack, you are a smart guy. Car is still available to help with this case. :peace:
Cyndeelouwho:
nazi war criminals were tried years after they escaped germany
we choose not to forget in order to help future generations
this was never about money, it is and always will be about stopping abuse
barker started an evil cycle of kidnap, torture, rape, abuse and murder and lives high on the hog off the proceeds from commiting crimes against humanity and fraud
it allows people like Terri Nissley (Pathways) to carry on in his same money grabbing tradition
It is sad when innocent lifes are traded for a buck
It is sad that money provided by parents to help their children is used to buy a luxury condo.
Most of the true humanitarians in the world (ghandi, mother teresa)
do not live in the lap of luxury.
barker thinks he is the pope, he is sadly mistaken
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