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John Underwood Statement
Anonymous:
Now Antigen could probably help you with some potions or spells, if you need any of those. Most Witches are good with that kind of crap. :blabla:
Anonymous:
guest 2 asks. how can i liken the seed to what i did?
you fucking idiot.
because it took 1 full year out of my life.
a clean kid that never did drugs forced to lie and say he did. kicked, and tortured. sleep depravation.
i was allergic to cigarettes, and had asthma and had to endure those smoke filled rooms filled with chain smokers, and caffeine drinkers who were stoned on nicotine, and caffeine, and claiming to be straight.
i also recall one young man, he was my oldtimers older brother. he "joined" the seed voluntarily, and was an adult. after a couple weeks of that bullshit, he didn't want to stay. he stood up and said, i'm going back to law school. i don't want any part of this. he was physically dragged down, and forced to stay.
uh! that is called kidnapping.
what you folks that don't realize is there is due process, and the seed violated that on a daily basis for those who entered voluntarily.
further, anyone held in that program, under the age of 16, and not being allowed to attend school violated federal laws that mandated school attendance.
i don't have to discuss, the forced beatings, the kidnapping from beds, schools, and places of employment.
i was kicked 3 times by a black guy staff member named don. the last time he kicked me,i told him, no doubt my father would get in touch with him. my father did. don disappeared from the seed.
anyone who says the seed saved their life, is truly a loser.
as for me? i'm 50. an attorney, and i have a recording contract.
never really gave the seed thought, until i stumbled on this post. so it really has been ineffective in my life.
i think its complete lunacy for this stupid chick to say, i don't have memories from those days.
you idiot, guest 2, you are the one stating as fact that you were on drugs. and killing your brain cells.
not me.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "stack jones" ---
you idiot, guest 2, you are the one stating as fact that you were on drugs. and killing your brain cells.
not me.
--- End quote ---
Stack, I agree with you 100%, but I do think this point needs to be addressed----it really doesn't matter if a kid is doing drugs or not---the Seed and programs like them do NOT treat addictions. They merely perpetuate themselves and other programs. Even if a kid were a 16 year old heroin addict that was selling his ass for drug money, the Seed and places like it are not appropriate places for them. Or anyone. It is like amputating an arm because someone has a hangnail. DEADINSANEINJAIL is a myth, a lie foisted upon the gullible to feed the "treatment" industry machine.
Anonymous:
i remember barker coming to the blimp hangar with a brand new black cadillac, and coming to speak with us for about -- maybe 2 minutes. he always had on the latest expensive clothing - worn by people 20 years his junior. and always a chick or 2. he was a comedic failure that came up with a fraudulent guise and it caught on. a fad.
even as a teen -- i realized those staff people were losers. each and every one of them.
no different than followers of jim jones. or other cult leaders.
the seed was-is a cult. nothing more. a business venture at the expense of gullible parents that stuck their kids in a secretive facade.
my last day at the seed was my 15th birthday. after they started me over and i spent 30 days away from home, claiming to be a drug addict, i never - ever played their game there way. and they knew it. they didn't break, and couldn't break a little kid.
on my 15th birthday then sang - hit the road jack and don't you come back no more no more.... i didn't, and you know what? they never came calling again. twofold reasons.
1) my mother had no money.
2) they had enough of me.
like i said, i reveled in the death of debbie, that pig bitch. i would have preferred her getting caught, while she was on the run. and starting over. then offing herself.
they scarred my sisters through and through. neither has a relationship of trust with my mother to this day.
fact. drug rehabs today hold kids until the insurance money runs out. its that simple.
its just big corporate business. profit for shareholders and NOTHING more.
the seed indeed is all you need
to stay off the junk and the pills and the weed
you come each day from 10 to 10
and if you screw up then you start again
junkies and thieves throughout the land
join our family hand in hand
working together from morning to night
to help each other see the light.
--
art barker father of the seed
he's my best friend
whenever we go out
the people always shout
there goes art barker father of the seed
la la la alalalalal
what an iconclastic model of brainwashing garbage.
Anonymous:
{It sounds like you were very young and maybe you didn't understand everything that was going on.}
you were on drugs, and lost your brain cells. not me.
i understood very clearly what was happening.
complete and unadulterated fraud.
a corporate nightmare aimed at filling pockets with cash, at the expense of children.
my memory is pristine and clear on the treachery.
my old time jacking off in his bed, at 5:30 with no sleep due to the intentional practice of sleep depravation. and knowing i'll be up at 6:00, not fed breakfast, and taken to a medal chair to sit in for 10 hours. watching kids freak out, attempt to escape, and get caught. watching people beg to go to the bathroom and told to piss themselves.
fuck off you dumb bitch.
is that what it took to "save your life." you fucking cunt.
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